Which MX-5 as a sensible runaround?

Which MX-5 as a sensible runaround?

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Chris71

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21,548 posts

249 months

Wednesday 30th June 2021
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My mum is looking for an MX-5. I've owned three MX-5s and driven virtually all of them at one time or another, but it's fair to say that my priorities are a bit different to my 73-year old mother's. I've not spent much time with the Mk3/3.5 either, which is now well within her £7k, so I can't really advise her on how that compares to the Mk1s and Mk2s that I know.

So... what would you get if you had a maximum of £7k (preferably less) to spend on a 'sensible' MX-5? It doesn't have to be fast, it doesn't have to handle, it just has to be easy to live with.

In particular, what are the Mk3s like to live with? Are they as rust prone as the early cars?

anonymous-user

61 months

Wednesday 30th June 2021
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I’d get a low end mk3 because sadly they all rust, IMHO there is no point spending big money on something that might have a four figure repair bill looming. I think the mk3 has better roof drain points and the sills aren’t quite as bad as a mk2 but they still rust. A garaged car with high miles and a sympathetic owner is better than a low mileage car kept outside all winter.

Evoluzione

10,345 posts

250 months

Wednesday 30th June 2021
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I wouldn't recommend a £7k MX5 to my aging mother, they're enthusiasts cars.

Chris71

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249 months

Thursday 1st July 2021
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Evoluzione said:
I wouldn't recommend a £7k MX5 to my aging mother, they're enthusiasts cars.
Well, I've owned three over a period of 15 years and I've never had an issue with them aside from rust, so they don't strike me as cars that need constant attention from a diehard enthusiast. Let's face it, they're mass produced Japanese convertibles, not vintage Alfas. More to the point, she wants an MX-5 as a replacement for her Triumph Spitfire, so why shouldn't she have one?

WonkeyDonkey

2,419 posts

110 months

Thursday 1st July 2021
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Probably the newest MK3 you can find. It will be a bit safer than the older ones. I don't think the mk1&2's had TC or ESP.

Shame an early MK4 hasn't dropped to that price range yet as to me they are a significant jump over the MK3.

Chris71

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Thursday 1st July 2021
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WonkeyDonkey said:
Probably the newest MK3 you can find. It will be a bit safer than the older ones. I don't think the mk1&2's had TC or ESP.

Shame an early MK4 hasn't dropped to that price range yet as to me they are a significant jump over the MK3.
Funnily enough, I've been looking after a Mk4 this week and absolutely fell in love with it. So much better than my Mk2.5 in every way, but I suppose if she could stretch to one it'd be at the cheaper end of the spectrum, so probably better off with an earlier car that's been pampered.

Sounds like a tidy Mk3 might be a good call. She's a reasonably competent driver, but traction control might be useful - she did manage to half-spin her Discovery on wet grass once. smile

RSTurboPaul

11,268 posts

265 months

Thursday 1st July 2021
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I think it's MX5Restorer on the south coast that does decent work on de-rusting and protecting them - IIRC mk1s are the main model getting sorted but it could be worth seeing if he or another company could do undersealing and getting some rust remover / inhibitor into the sills / arches.

Stevil

10,689 posts

236 months

Thursday 1st July 2021
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Given the requirements and how cheap they are compared to the 2.0 models I'd be looking for a MK3.5 1.8, my Mum has one and drives it like the Granny she is, so the LSD and extra performance would be wasted on her. Should be plenty out there that have been pampered.

dapper

189 posts

82 months

Thursday 1st July 2021
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Evoluzione said:
I wouldn't recommend a £7k MX5 to my aging mother, they're enthusiasts cars.
What's to say she isn't an enthusiast

Chris71

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21,548 posts

249 months

Thursday 1st July 2021
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dapper said:
Evoluzione said:
I wouldn't recommend a £7k MX5 to my aging mother, they're enthusiasts cars.
What's to say she isn't an enthusiast
Indeed. The main reason she wants one is that my dad's TVR isn't a convertible and she misses her old Triumph.

In fairness, she has zero interest in how fast it goes or whether it has a limited slip diff; she just wants something that looks nice and tops up her tan. But in terms of driving around in convertibles, I suspect she was doing that long before Evoluzione was born.

Evoluzione

10,345 posts

250 months

Thursday 1st July 2021
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Good luck is all I say laugh

aka_kerrly

12,490 posts

217 months

Thursday 1st July 2021
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My money would be a facelift mk3 -2009/2010era with the folding hard top. I'd try and find a 2.0 version, although wouldn't pass up a cheap 1.8.

anonymous-user

61 months

Friday 2nd July 2021
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I have a 2019 ND and I regularly give a not particularly flexible 71 year old a lift; he does fine getting in and out, albeit quite undignified hehe

If the budget will stretch I'd look at an early 1.5 ND over a late NC, they're bags of fun and have amazing fuel efficiency as a bonus.

ETA - The early NDs have gone up a lot since I looked 18 months ago. I got a WBAC for my 20k mile 2019 car and they'll give me £2k less than I paid for it in September 2019!

They seem to lose a LOT of value as soon as they have cat status, that might be worth considering if you go over the car with a fine toothed comb

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202106284...

Chris71

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Friday 2nd July 2021
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Evoluzione said:
Good luck is all I say laugh
I'm intrigued as to what you think is so fragile or poorly designed about the MX-5 that it needs a committed expert owner? confused

That said, the oldest car in their household dates from 1932, so I think they can probably cope.

PistonBroker

2,520 posts

233 months

Friday 2nd July 2021
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Chris71 said:
More to the point, she wants an MX-5 as a replacement for her Triumph Spitfire, so why shouldn't she have one?
As it happens, I sold my second NA in 2006 to a couple who wanted something more reliable than their Spitifre.

Nickp82

3,405 posts

100 months

Friday 2nd July 2021
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Have to disagree massively with the ‘enthusiast cars’ comment, plenty of more mature people drive them whether enthusiasts or not.

Personally, I would look for a nice 1.8 SE folding hardtop with the optional heated leather - they’re mk3.5 on so benefit from the improvements compared to earlier cars and are on 16 inch wheels , normal suspension etc.

Chris71

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21,548 posts

249 months

Saturday 3rd July 2021
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Nickp82 said:
Have to disagree massively with the ‘enthusiast cars’ comment, plenty of more mature people drive them whether enthusiasts or not.

Personally, I would look for a nice 1.8 SE folding hardtop with the optional heated leather - they’re mk3.5 on so benefit from the improvements compared to earlier cars and are on 16 inch wheels , normal suspension etc.
Sounds good. Any idea what the folding metal roof is like for reliability and boot space?

I think my mum would use it as a fair weather car with the roof down in either case, so I wasn't sure if the roof mechanism would be another thing to go wrong.

littleredrooster

5,703 posts

203 months

Saturday 3rd July 2021
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Chris71 said:
Sounds good. Any idea what the folding metal roof is like for reliability and boot space?

I think my mum would use it as a fair weather car with the roof down in either case, so I wasn't sure if the roof mechanism would be another thing to go wrong.
Roof is fairly bulletproof - better reliability than Merc & BMW usually, and occupies no space in the boot as it folds down vertically behind the seats. Weight penalty of about 60kg over the soft-top, however. The missus loves it for the convenience.

Chris71

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249 months

Saturday 3rd July 2021
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littleredrooster said:
Chris71 said:
Sounds good. Any idea what the folding metal roof is like for reliability and boot space?

I think my mum would use it as a fair weather car with the roof down in either case, so I wasn't sure if the roof mechanism would be another thing to go wrong.
Roof is fairly bulletproof - better reliability than Merc & BMW usually, and occupies no space in the boot as it folds down vertically behind the seats. Weight penalty of about 60kg over the soft-top, however. The missus loves it for the convenience.
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Evoluzione

10,345 posts

250 months

Saturday 3rd July 2021
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Chris71 said:
Evoluzione said:
Good luck is all I say laugh
I'm intrigued as to what you think is so fragile or poorly designed about the MX-5 that it needs a committed expert owner? confused

That said, the oldest car in their household dates from 1932, so I think they can probably cope.
What to look out for generally here: http://www.duratecnc.co.uk/?p=52

More specifically here: http://www.duratecnc.co.uk/?p=146