anyone fitted electric power steering?

[magpies]

as per title
either electric pump to the hydraulic rack or electric rack?

[Zed.]

I've done an electric column in my NA Eunos



more waffle on Mighty5's...

https://mighty5s.proboards.com/thread/3163/eps

Rich.

[Tye Green]

http://www.super7thheaven.co.uk/corsa-c-electric-p...

[TheJimi]

The obvious question to me, is - why would you want to?

[Zed.]

TheJimi said:

The obvious question to me, is - why would you want to?

in my case it was because I wanted pas (the previous owner had removed the standard system and replaced with a manual rack) and the standard hydraulic sysyem's pump would be close to the non-standard exhaust manifold I have

also, because I can


Rich.

[TheJimi]

Won't that be a step backwards in terms of steering feel?

[magpies]

TheJimi said:

Won't that be a step backwards in terms of steering feel?

hopefully only when parking - which is the only time I struggle a little - isn't age wonderful

[Zed.]

TheJimi said:

Won't that be a step backwards in terms of steering feel?

'Feel' is an interesting concept, I've heard (& read) plenty of scene-monkies experiences re. Mx5's and having 'the ultimate driving experience', de-powering steering or a manual rack is most common 'mod' seemingly due to an urban myth thats become accepted fact (usually for road driving / kerb-crawling )

when I bought my '91 Eunos the previous owner had replaced the pas with a 'keep-fit' rack (because its needed see!) and it felt horrible, heavy & just uncomfortable
the Mx5 was designed with pas & when the suspension geometry is altered steering can get heavier and loose it's self-centering ability so interesting to drive...

for competition use pas is good, hydraulic pressures can be altered to taste and with the eps it's possible to turn on/off (basic) adjust sensitivity / assist (easy with ebay 'controllers' etc.) and vss referenced speed-sensative if you're imaginative

magpies said:

hopefully only when parking - which is the only time I struggle a little - isn't age wonderful

creature comforts for enjoyable road driving

Rich.

Edited by Zed. on Thursday 11th March 11:24

Edited by Zed. on Thursday 11th March 11:26

[coppice]

My ND has EPAS , of course, and quite why anyone would want it on a sports car is a mystery . It is awful - too light , zero feedback and feel. Obviously some cars need assistance , but at least hydraulic has more feel. The received wisdom is that EPAS is better than HPAS for emissions , but any advantage must be minuscule .

[TheJimi]

Zed. said:

TheJimi said:

Won't that be a step backwards in terms of steering feel?

'Feel' is an interesting concept, I've heard (& read) plenty of scene-monkies experiences re. Mx5's and having 'the ultimate driving experience', de-powering steering or a manual rack is most common 'mod' seemingly due to an urban myth thats become accepted fact (usually for road driving / kerb-crawling )

when I bought my '91 Eunos the previous owner had replaced the pas with a 'keep-fit' rack (because its needed see!) and it felt horrible, heavy & just uncomfortable
the Mx5 was designed with pas & when the suspension geometry is altered steering can get heavier and loose it's self-centering ability so interesting to drive...

for competition use pas is good, hydraulic pressures can be altered to taste and with the eps it's possible to turn on/off (basic) adjust sensitivity / assist (easy with ebay 'controllers' etc.) and vss referenced speed-sensative if you're imaginative

With respect, you're missing my point entirely. The OP is specifically talking about electric PAS - not hydraulic PAS.

So your musings about people removing the hydraulic assistance are just that - musings, and nothing to with what I'm talking about, which is that ePAS will almost certainly be a large step backwards in terms steering feel.

You've fitted ePAS, right? What's the difference in feel versus the hydraulic setup?

Edited by TheJimi on Wednesday 17th March 09:51

[magpies]

TheJimi said:

With respect, you're missing my point entirely. The OP is specifically talking about electric PAS - not hydraulic PAS.

So your musings about people removing the hydraulic assistance are just that - musings, and nothing to with what I'm talking about, which is that ePAS will almost certainly be a large step backwards in terms steering feel.

You've fitted ePAS, right? What's the difference in feel versus the hydraulic setup?

Edited by TheJimi on Wednesday 17th March 09:51

TBH I'm only interested in taking the weight off at under 5 to 10 mph while parking. Which I believe can be set up using an electric pump to either power a hydraulic rack or a fully electric rack. I don't mind losing a little 'feel' as my daily works fine with this 'disadvantage'

[KTMsm]

I presume we are talking Mk1 or Mk2 - surely the easiest option is to retro fit the OEM PAS ?

Many have done it, most breakers will sell you a full kit - I expect you could do it for £100ish and a few hours