MK1 Brakes.

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Rickyy

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6,618 posts

226 months

Monday 19th September 2016
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The brakes on my Mk1 1.8 are awful. Plenty of resistance through the pedal, but very little 'bite'. I had an issue with a sticking caliper, which ruined one of the front pads. Caliper is fine now and I replaced the front pads, my OH sourced them as she worked at a garage, but I suspect they were dirt cheap!

I'm going to replace discs and pads all round as the rears are looking past their best.

Can anyone recommend a decent combination of pads and discs? MX5 parts have a full set of unknown discs and EBC ultimax pads for around £110. Genuine Mazda for £245 or some fancy looking EBC drilled and slotted ones with green stuff pads for £255.

Would I be better off with plain discs and some green stuff pads?

I keep threatening to do some track days at some point, so ideally want something that could stand up to that.

Any advice or guidance would be greatly appreciated!

snotrag

14,930 posts

218 months

Tuesday 20th September 2016
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Budget discs.

OEM Mazda pads - (proper OEM ones).

EBC Ultimax are turd. Rest of EBC range have massively mixed reviews, luck of the draw.

Other universally praised option is Roddisons 'secret reipce' pads which are good value.

I found genuine Mazda OEM pads fine even on track.

GravelBen

15,917 posts

237 months

Tuesday 20th September 2016
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snotrag said:
I found genuine Mazda OEM pads fine even on track.
Me too (on a Mk1 1.6).

Rickyy

Original Poster:

6,618 posts

226 months

Wednesday 21st September 2016
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Thanks both.

Plain discs and OEM pads it is.

ikarl

3,739 posts

206 months

Wednesday 21st September 2016
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oem discs and roddison pads on my 400bhp/tonne track car and they handle track work great, plus plenty of initial bite when cold.

massive thumbs up from me

J-Tuner

2,855 posts

250 months

Wednesday 21st September 2016
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Braided lines, Mintex M1144 at the front and std mintex at the back on mine - brilliant on track and on the road. Touch heavy on brake dust though but small price to pay for no fade biggrin

binnerboy

486 posts

157 months

Tuesday 27th September 2016
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I have been using yellowstuff for the last couple of years with standard disks. My car is used for a mix of road, autosolo, sprint and track days.

I have had no issues with them and they were a massive improvement over the stock pads on track and provide ample bite from cold.

A mate with a mk3 found they wore quickly I have had no issue but then again I have a mk1.

I fancy a change to some Roddison pads are arriving today and I am at Llandow tomorrow so will let you know how I get on.

The Roddision pads are £60 for the fronts delivered for a mk1 1.8

Yellow stuff are a bit cheaper , particularly if you order form MOT Motorsport who have been the cheapest each time I have looked.

Not tried the Mintex ones so no idea how they compare.


MX-5 Lazza

7,954 posts

226 months

Tuesday 27th September 2016
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For 1.6 & 1.8 pads (I.e. Not Mk2.5 Sport brakes) I recommend Axxis ULT. Shame I can't get them for my Sport.

Rickyy

Original Poster:

6,618 posts

226 months

Wednesday 28th September 2016
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binnerboy said:
I have been using yellowstuff for the last couple of years with standard disks. My car is used for a mix of road, autosolo, sprint and track days.

I have had no issues with them and they were a massive improvement over the stock pads on track and provide ample bite from cold.

A mate with a mk3 found they wore quickly I have had no issue but then again I have a mk1.

I fancy a change to some Roddison pads are arriving today and I am at Llandow tomorrow so will let you know how I get on.

The Roddision pads are £60 for the fronts delivered for a mk1 1.8

Yellow stuff are a bit cheaper , particularly if you order form MOT Motorsport who have been the cheapest each time I have looked.

Not tried the Mintex ones so no idea how they compare.

Be interested in hearing how you got on, Llandow is very local to me and is where I'm planning my track debut.

Thanks for everyone's input, I've decided to SORN the Mazda for the winter, as I've not had chance to do some rust protection that I had planned this summer, that gives me plenty of time to research and save money for the right set up.

MX-5 Lazza

7,954 posts

226 months

Wednesday 28th September 2016
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Llandow isn't heavy on brakes so I wouldn't worry about it much.

Yellow stuff are fairly good and don't fade but there are better out there. They can feel a little numb, especially when cold.
Axxis ULT bite much harder and always feel great, hot or cold and they don't fade at all. Dusting can be quite heavy but any track biased pad will.
I haven't tried Roddos pads or Mintex 1144 but both are highly rated and I'd put both well above Yellowstuff.

mondayo

1,828 posts

270 months

Monday 3rd October 2016
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Another vote for the Roddison pads here, although you might class me as biased, as he looks after my car for me.

Synchromesh

2,428 posts

173 months

Wednesday 5th October 2016
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Does anyone know where Roddisons pads are available to buy from?

mondayo

1,828 posts

270 months

Thursday 6th October 2016
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Synchromesh said:
Does anyone know where Roddisons pads are available to buy from?
http://www.mx5-racing.co.uk/ and just click on the contact tab. I always ring up or go in in person but email should work too.

binnerboy

486 posts

157 months

Friday 7th October 2016
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I didn't need to change my pads when I checked them at LLandow so did the day on yellowstuff, good as always , however not put the roddisons pads on yet so cannot report.

To buy them just call Paul, google Roddisons motorsport his mob is on the website. Best to do it between 1000 and 1500 as he passes you to a lady once he knows what model car you have and which axle. She then takes your card details and a delivery address and they ship out that day. You can pay an extra £6 for guaranteed next day delivery


Rickyy

Original Poster:

6,618 posts

226 months

Sunday 6th November 2016
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Slight change of plan, realistically with Christmas coming up and the car needing a bit spent on it to get it track ready, I've decided to leave 'performance' pads for a while.

Had a reasonable quote for a full set of Apec discs and pads all round, the plan is to then look into better pads as and when I need/can afford them. I'm hoping that Apec items should be of decent quality?

MX-5 Lazza

7,954 posts

226 months

Sunday 6th November 2016
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I just use the cheapest no-name discs I can get from the local motor factors. I think the last set were something like £30 for the pair. The supposed quality of discs contribute very little to braking effort.

Trabi601

4,865 posts

102 months

Sunday 6th November 2016
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MX-5 Lazza said:
Llandow isn't heavy on brakes so I wouldn't worry about it much.
All those who've ended up in the 'oh st' lane at the Bus Stop due to brake fade will disagree with this!

fatjon

2,298 posts

220 months

Monday 7th November 2016
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Be careful. There are some very nasty Chinese calipers around for the MX5.

HaylingJag

2,122 posts

155 months

Tuesday 8th November 2016
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be aware too that your local factors may do calipers cheaper than a certain MX5 parts place that sells MX5 Parts if yer know what i mean. I bought one from an MX5 parts place for £115 once then needed another some weeks later, my local motor factors in Havant sold me one for £55!!! explaining "thats why they sell so many to a certain MX5 parts place"!!

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binnerboy

486 posts

157 months

Wednesday 9th November 2016
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I got a replacement caliper from here

http://www.brakesint.co.uk/budweg.html

when my OSF failed

Recommended on mx5nutz so make of that what you will . Came with nipples and grease and much cheaper than mx5parts