Overheating at high speed

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Johnnytheboy

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24,498 posts

193 months

Monday 29th June 2015
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My OH's late Mark 1 1.8 has never moved its temperature gauge above the mid-point in its 150,000 miles.

Yesterday on the A34 I was driving it at a good L2 speed and I noticed that the temp had crept up almost to the top.

I backed off and very gradually it cooled down, heating up again whenever I went up a long hill. Whenever we got on to a single carriageway road it swiftly cooled down to the mid-point and stayed there.

On getting home I had a good look round under the bonnet. The radiator was a bit low (maybe 1 litre max?) on water, but there were no signs of leaks or drips anywhere. It hasn't lost any overnight.

There does seem to be a patch of splattered oil in front of the engine. Related?



My diagnosis of the symptoms is that something is preventing water moving round the cooling system quickly enough, so either:

Water pump dying
Radiator full of muck
(both the above are the originals so have done a fair tour of duty)
Water level low enough to prevent efficient flow

Thoughts?

It rarely goes on dual carriageways so I think I'm happy to let my OH keep driving it 15 miles to work and back until I can get it to the garage in about a week - as long as I keep an eye on the coolant level.

Mattlan

394 posts

212 months

Monday 29th June 2015
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That looks more like coolant, and its proximity to the thermostat housing might suggest a leaking gasket.

Whether that would give the symptoms you describe a better man than me will know.

VladD

8,011 posts

272 months

Monday 29th June 2015
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It might be worth giving the radiator a flush and maybe adding some descaler and then flushing again.

Johnnytheboy

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24,498 posts

193 months

Tuesday 30th June 2015
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It feels like oil - gonna ring the garage today!

Munter

31,328 posts

248 months

Tuesday 30th June 2015
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Johnnytheboy said:
It feels like oil - gonna ring the garage today!
Don't forget coolant has antifreeze etc in it.

It used to be quite common on MX5 forums to hear this exact story and for it to be the rad was clogged up with the usual gunk you get in there after a while. A new rad or a damn good flush out fixing it.

Johnnytheboy

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24,498 posts

193 months

Tuesday 30th June 2015
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Munter said:
Johnnytheboy said:
It feels like oil - gonna ring the garage today!
Don't forget coolant has antifreeze etc in it.

It used to be quite common on MX5 forums to hear this exact story and for it to be the rad was clogged up with the usual gunk you get in there after a while. A new rad or a damn good flush out fixing it.
Sounds like there's a tiny hole in the rad then - we'll find out on Thursday.

smile

thecremeegg

2,019 posts

210 months

Thursday 2nd July 2015
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Could be thermostat or more likely a small leak like you say. I'm constantly having cooling issues on mine...replace 1 pipe as its failed only for another to go straight after!

Paul Dishman

4,836 posts

244 months

Thursday 2nd July 2015
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We had this on my wife's 10AE when we got it. I tried flushing the system, replaced the 'stat and rad cap. The cure was to replace the radiator. I think they run a bit marginal on cooling and so are susceptible to a partially clagged radiator causing overheating.

Johnnytheboy

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24,498 posts

193 months

Thursday 2nd July 2015
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It's down there now, I think they were going to start by flushing the rad and replacing coolant, see what happens.

They are a good little garage who will do the cheapest thing first then see what happens.

appletonn

699 posts

267 months

Friday 3rd July 2015
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I've fitted a 'proper' temperature gauge to my Mk1 & at motorway speeds (80+mph)in the high temperatures we've seen this week, it's running at 90-95 degrees, but the standard gauge doesn't move a millimeter!

That's with new radiator & water pump/coolant last year, so these cars do run hot anyway, without any blocked rads etc!

thecremeegg

2,019 posts

210 months

Friday 3rd July 2015
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I replaced my rad with an aluminium one which is bigger and keeps temps lower - well worth £100!

Johnnytheboy

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24,498 posts

193 months

Friday 3rd July 2015
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Diagnosis is radiator is full of gunk and has a tiny hole in, so is being replaced.

vrsmxtb

2,002 posts

163 months

Saturday 4th July 2015
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Was the expansion tank filling up/overflowing at all?

Johnnytheboy

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24,498 posts

193 months

Saturday 4th July 2015
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vrsmxtb said:
Was the expansion tank filling up/overflowing at all?
No

Initially when we had the problem it was a bit low.

MX-5 Lazza

7,954 posts

226 months

Sunday 5th July 2015
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It will be the rad. Sounds like you got the right diagnosis.
Temp gauge isn't a true linear gauge. It basically shows cold, warming, "normal", boiling and FUBAR. Anything above "normal" is a problem and jumps to FUBAR very quickly.

appletonn

699 posts

267 months

Monday 6th July 2015
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MX-5 Lazza said:
It will be the rad. Sounds like you got the right diagnosis.
Temp gauge isn't a true linear gauge. It basically shows cold, warming, "normal", boiling and FUBAR. Anything above "normal" is a problem and jumps to FUBAR very quickly.
What temps are you showing on a proper temp gauge, just out of interest? With fresh coolant & new standard rad, mine's running at 90-95 degrees on motorway run in the recent hot weather

MX-5 Lazza

7,954 posts

226 months

Monday 6th July 2015
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I don't have a proper water temp gauge but can log it on my ecu and that water temp sounds spot on.

appletonn

699 posts

267 months

Monday 6th July 2015
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Cool, thanks