Cheapest place to buy CSL disks?
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I've got DS2500 on the V6, which have proven fine, last a couple of laps of the ring with minimal fade. I had red stuff but they were shocking! Wouldn't go EBC again if i'm being honest.
CA Automotive called me after an enquiry, £405 for a set of Aftermarket floating disks...
Are these genuine as he reckon's BMW would want over 500 for the pair??
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/BMW-M3-CSL-E46-BRAKE-DISCS-M...
CA Automotive called me after an enquiry, £405 for a set of Aftermarket floating disks...
Are these genuine as he reckon's BMW would want over 500 for the pair??
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/BMW-M3-CSL-E46-BRAKE-DISCS-M...
AliV6 said:
I've got DS2500 on the V6, which have proven fine, last a couple of laps of the ring with minimal fade. I had red stuff but they were shocking! Wouldn't go EBC again if i'm being honest.
CA Automotive called me after an enquiry, £405 for a set of Aftermarket floating disks...
Are these genuine as he reckon's BMW would want over 500 for the pair??
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/BMW-M3-CSL-E46-BRAKE-DISCS-M...
BMW price is £198 a disc (including VAT), so assuming you can negotiate a 10% discount you'd get a pair for £360 from a dealer (you could try Joe at Sopers, as mentioned on Z4-Forum).CA Automotive called me after an enquiry, £405 for a set of Aftermarket floating disks...
Are these genuine as he reckon's BMW would want over 500 for the pair??
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/BMW-M3-CSL-E46-BRAKE-DISCS-M...
Those ebay ones don't say they're genuine/OEM discs, so they could be CRN's own - and as they also have ads which specifically state 'OEM/Genuine' part, then I'd assume this phrase was left out purposely.
CA list a Stoptech (£383), Brembo, CA/Schmeidmann (£405), EBC (no price shown), OEM (no price shown).
Don't forget that CA are in the market to make a profit (and there's nothing wrong with that), but the only reason they'll be saying the OEM discs are more expensive than their own brand is because they'll be making £50 on the OEM part vs £100 on their own brand.
In the past I've used DS2000/2500/3000 (on the Corrado and the M5), but I swapped to a custom made set of EBCs on the M5 about 4 years ago and loved them (part of a one-off group buy). EBC now sells this 'special' as their standard e34 M5 pad, and they then reformulated the rest of their Yellow range to match. The blue stuffs are great too, but are very BITEY, although they do last a long time - and now available for the Z4M/CSL (I get them for about £50/set).
I've only ever used Yellowstuff and Bluestuff from the EBC range - I'd go for Pagids RS29s if it wasn't for the £200+ price per axle set - and the M5 never suffered any brake fade at any circuit.
NBTBRV8 said:
Looked there, but they don't have them listed - although they do offer to go and price some up for you.I took a look at Eurocarspares - who list discs for the M3 (not sure if they are the same)
http://www.eurocarparts.com/brake-discs
std disc is £123 each and pagid is £200 each
http://www.eurocarparts.com/brake-discs
std disc is £123 each and pagid is £200 each
rev-erend said:
I took a look at Eurocarspares - who list discs for the M3 (not sure if they are the same)
http://www.eurocarparts.com/brake-discs
std disc is £123 each and pagid is £200 each
The CSL/Z4M use a 345mm disc compared to the standard M3s 328mm.http://www.eurocarparts.com/brake-discs
std disc is £123 each and pagid is £200 each
However ECP shows a Pagid disc in both 325mm and 345mm - so obviously do a version for both, and the bigger one is cheaper.
'OE Quality' does not mean it's a genuine BMW/original/OEM part - just that it meets the same 'quality' as the original.
Quite right ..
But how many times have you heard a story like ATE make a disc .. then a big manufacturer pops it in a new bag and doubles or trebles the price.
They do try to make it difficult but sometimes with a consumable like discs and pads, tyres the power of forums like this can ease the ownership cost a lot.
But how many times have you heard a story like ATE make a disc .. then a big manufacturer pops it in a new bag and doubles or trebles the price.
They do try to make it difficult but sometimes with a consumable like discs and pads, tyres the power of forums like this can ease the ownership cost a lot.
rev-erend said:
Quite right ..
But how many times have you heard a story like ATE make a disc .. then a big manufacturer pops it in a new bag and doubles or trebles the price.
They do try to make it difficult but sometimes with a consumable like discs and pads, tyres the power of forums like this can ease the ownership cost a lot.
That is correct, but if it was the same part, made by the same company, but without the BMW stamp it would be called OEM (original equipment manufacturer), rather than OE quality which infers a different manufacturer but of similar quality.But how many times have you heard a story like ATE make a disc .. then a big manufacturer pops it in a new bag and doubles or trebles the price.
They do try to make it difficult but sometimes with a consumable like discs and pads, tyres the power of forums like this can ease the ownership cost a lot.
If they can make the product sound as close to genuine as possible without paying for genuine parts, then I'm sure they'll label the parts in the catalogue as such.
Sometimes it's simply a licensing issue where BMW have committed to buy so many thousands of the item at a certain price, only on the basis that they have the exclusive rights to that part from that company. After a few years the licence might expire and the manufacturer can sell OEM items.
It's only the ones labelled 'genuine' which should be stamped BMW - but there's also fake parts out there too, so you have to be careful wherever you buy the parts.
The 'cost' scale goes:
- Genuine
- OEM
- OEQ
- Everything else
mmm-five said:
NBTBRV8 said:
Looked there, but they don't have them listed - although they do offer to go and price some up for you.£154 inc vat each.
NotNormal said:
Not looking hard enough, they had 10 sets in stock when I ordered a pair yesterday online.
£154 inc vat each.
Not reading posts hard enough?£154 inc vat each.
My fruitless search (for the OP, not myself) was on 7th Jan, and I was simply pointing out to the original poster that there were various sources for them, and that one of the ones I normally search had zero stock at that point in time.
I wasn't likely to be carrying out a minute-by-minute stock check for someone else's benefit.
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