Track Day Brakes

[dustyjustin]

I am looking to do a track day at Oulton Park soon, had new standard brakes and pads fitted at my local dealer last month. Do you think they will be ok for the track or should i be looking to change them? Also does anybody have a set of CSL wheels for sale?

[honestjohnlusso]

should last about 3-4 laps

[robm3]

Nah, you're fine on the standard set up.
I had a great day at Oulton and was doing around 20 minute stints with 20 minute breaks with no issues.
Will post a few piccies up....

[robm3]

(The yellow Subuaru was the only car to get past me that day)

Edited by robm3 on Friday 22 February 15:41

[dustyjustin]

Looks lot's of fun. Did you have the cup tyres on?

[simple simon]

I did oulton in oct , I was on pilot sport cups and my new std set up lasted till lunch time !!
Had to run to demon tweeks (25 mins away) to get some more fitted. Bugger!!!

Now on AP 6 pot with 355 discs, much better.
I have done 25 laps at the ring and donnington since, what difference they make, stops like you wouldn’t believe

kind regards simon

[honestjohnlusso]

thats why you see most of the quick csl guys on ap's at oulton its tuff on brakes, nice pics rob

[robm3]

dustyjustin said:

Looks lot's of fun. Did you have the cup tyres on?

Nah, got (now shagged) conti 2's on that have lasted 22K miles plus 4 trackdays and 8 laps of Nurburgring.
Been through two sets of brake pads though and now run Pagid Red's.

I did have Cups but prefer the 'slideability' of the Conti's

Edited by robm3 on Wednesday 27th February 16:41

[dustyjustin]

Has any one got any thoughts on the TAR*OX F200 braking system (TAR-0X12)

[m12_nathan]

dustyjustin said:

Has any one got any thoughts on the TAR*OX F200 braking system (TAR-0X12)

Why bother with anything other than the AP racing setup - it works for everyone who has it (which is a large percentage of UK CSL owners I'd say), pads are easy to get, it is known not to knacker the master cylinder or upset the brake balance and is pretty cheap.

[dustyjustin]

Have just spoke to Performance brakes and the price for full AP set up is about 3K..... he sugested that as a starter put Yellow stuff pads in and see how i go. Any thoughts anyone

[oola]

dustyjustin said:

Have just spoke to Performance brakes and the price for full AP set up is about 3K..... he sugested that as a starter put Yellow stuff pads in and see how i go. Any thoughts anyone

They're not called 'Yellow Stuff' for no reason ... my piss is yellow but is also useless...

Please don't take this the wrong way but people who have owned CSL's tend to know what works and what doesnt work ... don't bother trying to re-invent the wheel with this!

You have two choices which have been tried and tested.

1) Pagid RS-19/29's front and back, decent fluid, braided hoses.

2) AP's ... maybe just the fronts at first.

Of course, there are other options but these two are tried and tested routes people go down when upgrading the brakes on a CSL.

[m12_nathan]

Pagid yellows (RS19 or RS29) are good, I'm giving Performance Friction PF01 a go next though as they get rave reviews.

[Bund]

Oola,

Brakes like the AP6 set up, do they make a lot of noise if not being used hard? When i find one it will be as much a every day car as a track toy. My old 968cs brakes made terrible noise when not being used hard and not sure my girlfriend would be happy if she has the same thing everytime she pulls up at lights.

Also are the xenos standard on all csl´s?

Edited by Bund on Thursday 28th February 14:13

[m12_nathan]

Xenons aren't standard, they're a weight adding option like a stereo and aircon.

Noise depends on the pads and how much use, Pagid RS29 can squeal a bit if not used properly for a while, bit of hard use and they shut up again. Something more road oriented like the DS2500s are silent.

[robm3]

m12_nathan said:

Pagid yellows (RS19 or RS29) are good, I'm giving Performance Friction PF01 a go next though as they get rave reviews.

Ah, yes that's what I have on the front and Pagid Reds on the rear, they are little rough and noisy when cold but pretty much fade free for around 10 hard(ish) laps...

[robm3]

m12_nathan said:

Xenons aren't standard, they're a weight adding option like a stereo and aircon.

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Ah, spoken like an owner who doesn't have em' but sneakily wishes he did

[m12_nathan]

I've had some bother with RS29 knackering disks due to the brass pins in the pad material.

Are you running APs?

[robm3]

m12_nathan said:

Xenons aren't standard, they're a weight adding option like a stereo and aircon.

Spoken like an owner who doesn't have em

[robm3]

m12_nathan said:

I've had some bother with RS29 knackering disks due to the brass pins in the pad material.

Are you running APs?

Nope, and my disks are stuffed now, I do suspect the pads have done a bit more of that but hey ho that's the price I pay for not upgrading to AP's...

For the OP though I reckon he just needs to get out on the track and stop worrying too much. If his style is hard on the brakes then he'll soon assess what he truly needs.

The only issue I've had is the bloody brake reservoir cap leaking fluid!

Edited by robm3 on Wednesday 27th February 16:55