Anybody supercharged their CSL?

Anybody supercharged their CSL?

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BlueNGT

Original Poster:

701 posts

229 months

Sunday 26th August 2007
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CSL's are looking serious value for money these days which means extra £'s for mods.

Keep watching this vid http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4TSqH-V2P1U and wondering how difficult it would be to supercharge one? And the cost?

RickShaw

14 posts

210 months

Sunday 26th August 2007
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http://www.esstuning.com/default.asp?c=shop&ca...

2003 M3 CSL VT2 5.5PSI Supercharger System (108-97)

Featuring the highly efficient and reliable Vortech V2SQ supercharger unit combined with the new ESS LiquaFlow high capacity liquid intercooler manifold system with front mounted heat exchanger and ice expansion system for superior discharge temperature reduction and optimal power development under all conditions.

The redesigned ESS MSS54 engine control software is perfectly calibrated for the supercharged engine providing optimum ignition timing under all conditions, recalibrated EGas for quicker throttle response, recalibrated VANOS control and perfectly optimized fuel delivery supplied by 6 larger Bosch injection valves included with the kit. We have spent countless hours developing and testing the new S54 VT2 system and the end result is a product we are extremely proud of.

The CSL drives and feels just like an original CSL until you step on the accelerator.. Then you will be completely chocked by the acceleration the supercharged CSL provides.

The system maintains all OBD-II functions and it is backed by a comprehensive 2 year, unlimited mileage warranty program. The system installs in 8-10 hours using normal hand tools and no irreversible modifications to the car is necessary.

System components:

-Vortech V2SQ supercharger unit.
-High capacity ESS LiquaFlow intercooler manifold system.
-Uni-belt with additional OEM quality rollers.
-6 larger Bosch fuel injectors.
-Perfectly optimized, dyno tweaked ECU software.
-CNC hard anodized brackets and hardware.
-K&N high flow air filter.
-Discharge and intake assemblies made from 304 stainless steel.
-High temperature silicone hoses with clamps
-Detailed, step-by-step installation manual + CD.
-Heavy-Duty drive belt.
-3 way, fume reduction oil breather assembly designed for boost.
-All installation hardware included
-2yr./unlimited mileage warranty.

Part number: 108-97
Boost pressure: 6.5 PSI
Horsepower: 510 DIN (Stock 360)
Torque: 480 NM (Stock 370)
Installation time : 12-16 hours

USD 11 995 / EUR 9 115

BlueNGT

Original Poster:

701 posts

229 months

Monday 27th August 2007
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503 bhp and 346 lb ft of torque must make a huge difference in performance. And for £6k its a bargain.

Guess nobody has supercharged their car?

simple simon

67 posts

229 months

Saturday 1st September 2007
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Hello there I have just swapped a 996 turbo for a csl !!
Yes the new addition to the family means I need a 4-seat car, csl ticks all the boxes.

Back to the super charger I miss the power of my dms tuned 500 bhp porkers so I have been looking at a super charger?
I have talked to Simpson’s motor sport regarding the kit mentioned in this thread, they say (as they would)
They have around 20 m3s already done none have ever let go allegedly 2 are csls?

They are bringing a new kit out very soon with out the water cooled inlet manifold, and going to intercoolers (lighter, simpler and cheaper)
Plus if the water leaks in the inlet. Boom engine!

Please feel free to email me and would love a chat, maybe we could get good price for 2 to be done?

bromers2

1,867 posts

257 months

Saturday 1st September 2007
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The new charger looks very tempting, I just wonder whether you get away from some of the drivability of an NA CSL (ie it's quite easy to control slides with 360bhp) ?

Rick

simple simon

67 posts

229 months

Sunday 2nd September 2007
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All I have to go by is I used to have a mini cooper works with 215 bhp; it was very smooth in drivability?
I think we must find some m3s or csl owners with conversion.

The only worry I have is residual? Will it ruin the cars resale long term?

RickShaw

14 posts

210 months

Sunday 2nd September 2007
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I have owned a 996 TT with 530 HP and there is no substitute for the warp speed feeling, particularly for rapid acceleration above 200 km/h on the autobahn. The allure of massive thrust is very addictive. And big power enhances safety by reducing overtaking times.

But high-powered cars demand respect when being driven close to the limit on tracks or twisties.

BlueNGT

Original Poster:

701 posts

229 months

Sunday 2nd September 2007
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simple simon said:
Hello there I have just swapped a 996 turbo for a csl !!
How do you find the CSL?

I have a 964 RS Clubsport at the moment running Motec but am afraid to say I am little bored at the moment hence looking at alternatives. CSL appeals as its designed with the same aim as the RS Porsche's but is more modern and more easily replaced (964 RS prices have gone silly recently) if anyting were to happen on track.

simple simon

67 posts

229 months

Sunday 2nd September 2007
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The csl is much more focused towards the driver I think it’s between a gt3 and a turbo?
Would have gone for a gt3 but want 4 seats! And the cost saving is a serious matter not to be over looked.

Things I really like are the cost difference, everything for the csl seems to be half the price.
I ran the turbo for around 2 years and probably spent around £10,000 on running costs (did quite a few track days in it)
It only ever gave me one problem (water hose split at the ring just going in to the car park. thank god)
Cost me 125 quid to fix, but brakes are around £1000 a go and they are heavy on brakes, tyres are £1000 ago and so on.
Re the csl!
I am turning in to a real ring addict and to me they seem to go around the ring quicker than a turbo even with less power.
I do like the tail happiness of the csl, and I find it turns in far better than the turbo, and god you can really feel the weigh difference (going to the ring on 28 sept for 3 days to find out)
My best time at ring so far is 8.08 bridge to gantry, so I am going to find out what its really like in anger in 4 weeks.
Then I think I will see if I really want a supercharger??

Ask me then


Well going to Oulton Park on Tuesday for a little get to know the car?
Ps if you want a giggle go to you tube type in "jj996” two turbos at the ring I am the blues turbo that passes him at t13 (well he lets me by? But he gets the better of me up the big back straight, but he dose have 580 bhp over my 480 /500.

BlueNGT

Original Poster:

701 posts

229 months

Sunday 2nd September 2007
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simple simon said:
Well going to Oulton Park on Tuesday for a little get to know the car?
I live only about 20 mins from Oulton, might have a ride over on Tuesday to have a look at the CSL if you dont mind?

simple simon

67 posts

229 months

Sunday 2nd September 2007
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not at all, 5" foot 11" blonde little fat and just under 40

oh yes grey csl 04 plate

BlueNGT

Original Poster:

701 posts

229 months

Monday 3rd September 2007
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Great stuff, so long as its not raining I'll see you tomorrow.

Thanks

robm3

4,930 posts

234 months

Monday 3rd September 2007
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Be keen to know how you get on with this but what does this sort of upgrade do to the drivetrain though??
Gearbox, diff, axles etc.. are they 'beefed' up?


Edited by robm3 on Monday 3rd September 15:49

simple simon

67 posts

229 months

Monday 3rd September 2007
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simpsons say geabox is ok ,it will simply wear cluth quicker.

they put up ratted clutch in when it wears out ??