Interesting Vid - CSL vs RS4

[DoctorD]

www.myvideo.de/watch/874157

[Beemer-5]

The CSL's a lot lighter and has a fantastic engine!

[nickbell3]

Balck RS4 would sit very nicely with my black CSL to form my ideal garage

[m3evo2]

Blimey didnt think the CSL would spank the RS4 so easily. Great

[Beemer-5]

By sports car standards the RS4 is a gentleman's express.
Powerful but lardy.

Edited by Beemer-5 on Tuesday 27th February 14:18

[bumcrack]

Was the CSL standard?

[DoctorD]

You can't really do much to make a CSL any quicker than standard - around 10-20bhp tops is about it without resorting to forced induction. The RS4 seemed slower than I expected though, since both cars share very similar 0-120mph times of approx 16 seconds.

[Beemer-5]

2 turbos on the RS4 and we would be talking!

[The Dude]

Beemer-5 said:

2 turbos on the RS4 and we would be talking!

CSL beating another brand of German car with two turbos and 4WD?

I'm saying nothing...

[Beemer-5]

I don't think mine would stay with a 996 twin turbo Dude.

Would it?

[obes]

RS4 Avant 1710Kg 420bhp = 246 bhp/ton
CSL 1425Kg 360bhp = 252 bhp/ton

6bhp/ton makes a lot of difference !
plus the gearchange would be much faster in the CSL

[The Dude]

Beemer-5 said:

I don't think mine would stay with a 996 twin turbo Dude.

Would it?

Don't think I can't see what you're trying to do...

[kinetic]

Not covinced. I reckon its faked. Look at ther first run. the RS4 is hauling in the CSL and the video is cut then it switches back with th CSL 15 yds ahead.
Maybe I'm being cinical but if you look at any independent tests there's nothing in it or the RS4 has the edge so its highly suspect at best!

[ferrari355gtb]

obes said:

RS4 Avant 1710Kg 420bhp = 246 bhp/ton
CSL 1425Kg 360bhp = 252 bhp/ton

6bhp/ton makes a lot of difference !
plus the gearchange would be much faster in the CSL

Is that how much an RS4 weighs - cross that off the shopping list then.

[DoctorD]

IIRC EVO weighed one and it was only 30/40 kg lighter than an M6 and certainly quite a bit more than Audi originally claimed.

[d1bble]

Have a peak here..RS4 v M3CSL.

Clicky

Love the sound by the way.

[m3evo2]

d1bble said:

Have a peak here..RS4 v M3CSL.

Clicky

Love the sound by the way.

Nifty little toy, CSL still swings it, just!

[Beemer-5]

The Dude said:

Beemer-5 said:

I don't think mine would stay with a 996 twin turbo Dude.

Would it?

Don't think I can't see what you're trying to do...

I went to the Midlands meet tonight with a 996 turbo, as it happens!

Not trying to do anything, Dude, i think 450 bhp and 4wd might just give my car a problem or three!

Just being honest here.

[obes]

ferrari355gtb said:

obes said:

RS4 Avant 1710Kg 420bhp = 246 bhp/ton
CSL 1425Kg 360bhp = 252 bhp/ton

6bhp/ton makes a lot of difference !
plus the gearchange would be much faster in the CSL

Is that how much an RS4 weighs - cross that off the shopping list then.

The estate(Avant) yes. 1,710 kg
Saloon is 1,645kg
Cabriolet is 1,845kg

Edited by obes on Wednesday 28th February 09:11

[m12_nathan]

Some people on the RS4 forum have apparently been dyno'd at 365bhp rather than the 420 claimed, guess the one in the vid could be a sick one as the 0-100 times are very similar with the RS4 just edging it, I don't think the CSL should pull away quite that much, even from a rolling start.