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Many reasons, really. In no particular order;
Because i prefer to do track days in cheaper cars, more designed for the track and less financially damaging if i crash them, like my Westfield Seight. Even a car weighing 1400 kgs like the CSL is compromised for track work, it's still far too heavy. (My Westy weighs a mere 595kgs and has 212 bhp on the dyno).
Also, i don't like to thrash the very last nuts off any of my road cars, to me they were made for fast road use, not track racing.
Plus, the CSL needs better brakes for very hard track use, imo. I was not prepared to start spending a fortune on it for the sake of 3 or 4 track days per year.
My insurance and warranty does not cover track work.
Etc.
Because i prefer to do track days in cheaper cars, more designed for the track and less financially damaging if i crash them, like my Westfield Seight. Even a car weighing 1400 kgs like the CSL is compromised for track work, it's still far too heavy. (My Westy weighs a mere 595kgs and has 212 bhp on the dyno).
Also, i don't like to thrash the very last nuts off any of my road cars, to me they were made for fast road use, not track racing.
Plus, the CSL needs better brakes for very hard track use, imo. I was not prepared to start spending a fortune on it for the sake of 3 or 4 track days per year.
My insurance and warranty does not cover track work.
Etc.
I've moved from NSX to CSL.
Personally, I prefer the CSL on road and track. The CSL is so much more aggressive, the NSX could be considered a nasty lady, but lacking outright balls unless you go Type S or R. Great car though, still not a lightweight, but hugely underrated and a great community found at NSXCB.co.uk.
VTEC howl is fab, but think you'd be slightly disappointed overall.
PS - NSX brakes are okay, but no better than standard CSL imo.
Personally, I prefer the CSL on road and track. The CSL is so much more aggressive, the NSX could be considered a nasty lady, but lacking outright balls unless you go Type S or R. Great car though, still not a lightweight, but hugely underrated and a great community found at NSXCB.co.uk.
VTEC howl is fab, but think you'd be slightly disappointed overall.
PS - NSX brakes are okay, but no better than standard CSL imo.
Thanks for the input.
I rarely keep a car more than a year, though and it seems to make sense to sell the CSL whilst still in warranty and whilst having extremely low mileage.
I am test driving a 2005 NSX this afternoon and although that particular car is too expensive, at £55,000, it will tell me what i need to know about the NSX.
I am thinking that 280 bhp will feel a little underwhelming, after a succession of much more powerful cars over the last 5 years, but we shall see.
I rarely keep a car more than a year, though and it seems to make sense to sell the CSL whilst still in warranty and whilst having extremely low mileage.
I am test driving a 2005 NSX this afternoon and although that particular car is too expensive, at £55,000, it will tell me what i need to know about the NSX.
I am thinking that 280 bhp will feel a little underwhelming, after a succession of much more powerful cars over the last 5 years, but we shall see.
Beemer-5 said:
Thanks for the input.
I rarely keep a car more than a year, though and it seems to make sense to sell the CSL whilst still in warranty and whilst having extremely low mileage.
I am test driving a 2005 NSX this afternoon and although that particular car is too expensive, at £55,000, it will tell me what i need to know about the NSX.
I am thinking that 280 bhp will feel a little underwhelming, after a succession of much more powerful cars over the last 5 years, but we shall see.
I rarely keep a car more than a year, though and it seems to make sense to sell the CSL whilst still in warranty and whilst having extremely low mileage.
I am test driving a 2005 NSX this afternoon and although that particular car is too expensive, at £55,000, it will tell me what i need to know about the NSX.
I am thinking that 280 bhp will feel a little underwhelming, after a succession of much more powerful cars over the last 5 years, but we shall see.
Thats always been my thoughts on the NSX, having never driven one. I'd be interested to hear your thoughts on it
The other thing, vpr, is that a very good friend of ours runs a Mitsubishi dealership, so i will be getting the new X at a very good price, circa £2,000 off list, so the massive initial depreciation hit won't be nearly as bad as it is with regular new Evo buys.
That friend has the current Evo 9 360 and whilst i expect a lot of people here will not be too keen on the Lancer, (i agree it is nothing like the quality of the CSL, etc) it is, quite simply, the quickest 'road' car on earth, for anything near the money.
Road car being the important bit. Our roads are normally a combination of wet/potholed/poorly surfaced/hilly/greasy/muddy etc and the incredible traction of the Evo 9 puts it in a class of it's own.
The X is better still, with even more advanced technology. Point to point, even a 997 turbo struggles to keep up with a car my mate bought for just £29K new.
366 bhp @ 6887 rpm and a mountainous 363 bhp at just 3200 rpm play their part, of course.
Anyway, enough of Evo talk on a BMW forum, but i thought i'd explain my thinking!
That friend has the current Evo 9 360 and whilst i expect a lot of people here will not be too keen on the Lancer, (i agree it is nothing like the quality of the CSL, etc) it is, quite simply, the quickest 'road' car on earth, for anything near the money.
Road car being the important bit. Our roads are normally a combination of wet/potholed/poorly surfaced/hilly/greasy/muddy etc and the incredible traction of the Evo 9 puts it in a class of it's own.
The X is better still, with even more advanced technology. Point to point, even a 997 turbo struggles to keep up with a car my mate bought for just £29K new.
366 bhp @ 6887 rpm and a mountainous 363 bhp at just 3200 rpm play their part, of course.
Anyway, enough of Evo talk on a BMW forum, but i thought i'd explain my thinking!
Carrera 2, at a guess, the NSX will feel quite quick, being light, about the same as the CSL, but with a sharper and shorter sweet spot, 5500 rpm to 7500 rpm.
They claim 276 bhp, but every one i have heard of on the dyno has read between 281 and 296 bhp.
Probably in isolation, the car will go and sound great, but put next to something with 360 bhp it will probably wilt a little!
They claim 276 bhp, but every one i have heard of on the dyno has read between 281 and 296 bhp.
Probably in isolation, the car will go and sound great, but put next to something with 360 bhp it will probably wilt a little!
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