A question for those in the know

[LordHaveMurci]

Many people, myself included, are not keen on the SMG 'box in the E46 CSL.

Would it be possible to take a standard M3 or CS & upgrade it to CSL spec or virtually CSL spec? I know you'd end with a car that was neither M3 or CSL & worth less money but if it was a keeper? Or would it be feasible to swap the SMG 'box on the CSL to a manual?

[Jamesp24]

Yes you could turn an CS in to CSL if you could source all the parts,at quite a cost.

[LordHaveMurci]

What would the ballpark cost be do you think?

[Inverted]

Ill dig the list of parts out. But starting point....carbon airbox is around 7k from BMW.

[Inverted]

There you go. Found them a few threads down.

BMW OEM M3 CSL PARTS PRICE LIST
OEM PART DESCRIPTION OEM PART NUMBER CA RETAIL PRICE INC VAT
19" CSL FRONT WHEEL EACH 36 11 2 282 650 £494.70
19"CSL REAR WHEEL EACH 36 11 2 282 999 £494.70
CSL BOOT LID PANEL 41 00 7 895 884 £932.64
CSL ROOF PANEL 41 00 7 895 382 £1,263.20
CSL REAR DIFFUSER 51 12 7 895 985 £940.91
CSL REAR VENT WINDOW N/S/R 51 36 4 334 945 £96.00
CSL REAR VENT WINDOW O/S/R 51 36 4 334 946 £96.00
CSL REAR WINDSCREEN 51 31 7 895 441 £570.57
CSL FRONT BUMPER CONVERSION (Includes flippers, bumper shocks, slide mounts, tow eye cover and 2x grille) £4,401.42
CSL FRONT CARBON CORNER SPLITTERS (PAIR) "51 11 7 896 379
51 11 7 896 380
" £686.54
CSL N/S WING GRILLE 51 13 7 895 913 £65.72
CSL O/S WING GRILLE 51 13 7 895 914 £65.72
CSL AIRBOX CONVERSION inc smg relocate kit £6,842.06
CSL EXHAUST MANIFOLD 1-3 CYL 11 62 7 833 500 £865.95
CSL EXHAUST MANIFOLD 4-6 CYL 11 62 7 833 643 £865.95
CSL FRONT PIPE INC CATS 18 30 7 833 673 £1,212.50
CSL INTERMEDIATE EXHAUST (X-PIPE) 18 10 7 833 503 £663.48
CSL REAR SILENCER 18 10 7 833 504 £712.95
CSL INLET CAMSHAFT 11 31 7 835 041 £665.12
CSL EXHAUST CAMSHAFT 11 31 7 835 043 £520.24
CSL FRONT BRAKE DISC CONVERSION INC CARRIERS "34 11 2 282 445 x1
34 11 2 282 446 x1
34 11 2 282 619 x2
" £777.97
CSL TIE RODS (PAIR) "32 11 2 228 785
32 11 2 228 786
" £315.75
CSL FRONT N/S FRONT WISHBONE 31 12 2 229 453 £319.55
CSL FRONT O/S FRONT WISHBONE 31 12 2 229 454 £319.55
CSL REAR TRAILING ARM BUSH (PAIR) 33 32 6 770 817 £41.53
CSL TRACK CONTROL ARMS (PAIR) "32 11 2 228 785
32 11 2 228 786
" £315.75
CSL LWR REAR WISHBONE (PAIR) 33 32 2 283 074 £125.61
CSL STEERING WHEEL (EXCL AIRBAG) 32 34 2 282 502 £649.91
CSL STEERING WHEEL AIRBAG 32 30 6 757 891 £547.71
CSL STEERING RACK 32 13 2 282 647 £1,236.75
CSL CARBON FRONT CENTRE CONSOL 51 16 7 896 359 £803.46
CSL N/S/F CARBON DOOR TRIM 51 41 7 895 581 £4,889.58
CSL O/S/F CARBON DOOR TRIM 51 41 7 895 582 £4,889.58
CSL N/S/R CARBON QTR PANEL TRIM 51 43 7 895 579 £1,067.00
CSL O/S/R CARBON QTR PANEL TRIM 51 43 7 895 580 £1,042.76
CSL N/S/F SPORT SEAT ??? 52 10 0 303 831 £2,570.51
CSL O/S/F SPORT SEAT ??? 52 10 0 031 830 £2,570.51
CSL REAR SEAT CONSOL 52 20 7 896 297 £518.96
CSL REAR SEAT CONVERSION INC ALL FRAMES + COVERS
52 20 7 896 800
52 20 7 896 227
52 20 7 896 929
52 20 7 896 930
52 20 7 896 807
52 20 7 896 808
" £3,621.47

prices inc vat and are correct as of the date 19/6/12
prices may change inline with bmw.

[Jamesp24]

As above,its hard to find all the genuine parts other than going to BMW etc.You may find the od airbox,seat,door cards.

your far better off buying a genuine CSL : )

[Leins]

The front door cards are the killer:

CSL N/S/F CARBON DOOR TRIM 51 41 7 895 581 £4,889.58
CSL O/S/F CARBON DOOR TRIM 51 41 7 895 582 £4,889.58

[Inverted]

From recent threads on CSLR it seems BMW have stopped producing a lot of the parts, so if they are out of stock thats it. Time for values to really climb.....

[Leins]

Inverted said:

From recent threads on CSLR it seems BMW have stopped producing a lot of the parts, so if they are out of stock thats it. Time for values to really climb.....

Well the rear diffuser is still available, as picked one up last weekend from my local dealers. Going to see if can get the small crack in the old one repaired now, but I know carbon fibre isn't the easiest thing to work with

The ending of production of the front splitters and roof is a bit worrying though. I wonder if people will now stop tracking them as much?

[LordHaveMurci]

So could you convert a CSL to manual 'box then? Heresy I know but in theory, could it be done?

[Yanto]

Yes - CSL>man - can and has been done.

Way better way of doing as I understand. Not cheap though.

[griffgrog]

Have you actually driven the SMG for a long period of time. I find it really matches the cars character. The M3 manual gearbox is IMO pretty agricultural. As a serial 911 owner, the manual \\M gearboxes are horrid in comparison.

I took my CSL out for a blast yesterday as the roads were clear and the sun shining. The CSL really is the next best thing to a GT3.

[shim]

CSL gearbox is fo real men.......buy a Fiat Duplo if you cant handle it

[johnnywb]

griffgrog said:

Have you actually driven the SMG for a long period of time. I find it really matches the cars character. The M3 manual gearbox is IMO pretty agricultural. As a serial 911 owner, the manual \\M gearboxes are horrid in comparison.

I took my CSL out for a blast yesterday as the roads were clear and the sun shining. The CSL really is the next best thing to a GT3.

I agree. Not driven a GT3, so can't compare on that front, but the SMG box really suits the CSL's character as a sequential manual box rather than an auto.

I hardly ever drive mine in 'D' i drive it as paddle operated clutch-pedal-less manual.