CSL Reps

[Stu3500]

Hi guys,

I've got an Estoril Blue M3 with properly rotten Original 19" after the winter. Im looking to get them refurbed but for what looks like around £100 a corner for a proper job it getting close to being CSL replica money. This would also mean i'd have spare wheels for winter to keep them in good nick away from the salt.I had a look through the old topics and noticed that the replica's seem to be alot heavier than original CSL's. I was just wondering if they would be heavier than the original 19's on at the moment.

I realise this probably comes up alot but any opinions would be apreicated, mint refurbed original 19's or new 19" CSL reps on a estoril blue M3, im not 100% sure which to go for myself at the moment.

Oh, and if anyone had a photo of an estoril blue m3 on csl wheels it would be helpful to see.

Thanks

stu

[AM-BM]

check the blue one 1/2 way down

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...

[gilford]

A set of OEM CSL alloys are only £1100 so why not pay that hit extra? They will always hold their value as well

Don't chav a decent car with fake alloys is all I can say!

[Stu3500]

gilford said:

A set of OEM CSL alloys are only £1100 so why not pay that hit extra? They will always hold their value as well

Don't chav a decent car with fake alloys is all I can say!

Thought someone might say that! I totally agree but I didn't think OEM's came for much under £1400 which is out of my price range and you can only do what you can afford.Where have you seem OEM's for that price?

[gilford]

At my dealers

I had a CSL a couple of years ago and badly curbed one of the wheels. I phoned a few places and like you the prices were coming in at well over £100 for a decent repair, plus I would of had to post the wheel out and have the car on axle stands for a week.

I rang my dealer and a set of 4 came in at something like £1123 which I though was super value, so I ordered them

Even better news was that after I had them fitted, I sold the old one's on e bay for £800!

A friend of mine has a 330ci with fake CSL's on and it really does look pants, the fronts dont look too bad but the rears look afwul! The edges are too sharp and they are not "deep dish" compared to the OEM one's.

You have got a decent car there that I presume you paid over £15k for, so another grand IMHO is nothing to keep everything looking good, and you can always sell them separately after or ask for more in the sale to include them

[mat205125]

That's a fair price for a set of genuine CSL alloys. How much are the identical looking, however slightly heavier, non-forged CS alloys? Are these even more reasonable from a main dealer?

[AlxM3]

I have an Estoril blue M3 and recently had all the alloys refurbed properly, see the link below for some pictures etc (they are the standard 19"s however, not CSL's.) Amazing what a difference they can make.

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...

[Stu3500]

I'm going to get a friend with a CS to get a price from a dealer for his wheels for me. It might work out better with CS wheels anyway because i wont need to change my front tyres, so if it cheaper as well then that could be a solution. From what i've heard BMW wont sell CS/CSL wheels to customers without a CS/CSL.
I'm very keen to keep a set of spare wheels for winter. My one's on the car at the moment where refurbed by the dealer when i bought the car 8 months ago and are now completed nakered, the joys of scottish winters!

[gilford]

CS parts can be bought off the shelf bud, its only CSL parts that can be tricky to get

You only need a chassis number to order them, and I'm sure I could help you out with that

[mat205125]

gilford said:

CS parts can be bought off the shelf bud, its only CSL parts that can be tricky to get

You only need a chassis number to order them, and I'm sure I could help you out with that

Any idea how much a set of CS rims retail at?

[gilford]

Not sure bud, sorry.

[kds keltec]

I have had no problem with ordering Csl wheels from main dealer ..

The parts guy i use said that loads of chassis no's for csl's have been pasted to him over the years...

Some poor owners are driving around in their csl's with Bmw head office showing they have had 20 sets or more for their car .

Csl's a few years back came in at £999 for a set

I was told by the very parts guy that the price has gone up ..


The difference i have found between any rep wheel compared to OEM wheels of all makes is

Weight difference reps are heavier .

Rep wheels need much larger amount of balance weights to get right..

Paint finish is poorer , with some alloy wheel cleaners stripping the paint of slowly.

Have seen a couple of rep wheels crack and fall apart which caused one accident and one scary moment .

Rep wheels in general seem to bend much easier then OEM wheels ..


The fact i work next door to a company that some weeks refurb over 500 wheels a week , i have seen most types and makes of wheel out there.

Strange thing is some of the nicest aftermarket wheels are really no better than rep wheels ...

From the owner of Lepsons " The OEM wheels for the latest Bmw's E39/E46 onwards are the best quality alloy and finish "


One of my customers fitted rep RS4 wheels to his S4 around a month later he had 4 square wheels ..

I would say there is a reason why reps are cheaper IMHO

[kds keltec]

Guy's

Part numbers for OEM Csl wheels are

Part no ............................... Description

Front B36.11.2.282.650 .......... 017205/F csl 8.5

Rear B36.11.2.282.999 ........... 017205/Rear csl 9.5


Taken straight from Bmw Invoice

Now you can find out a price

[Stu3500]

I went into my local dealer last night to get some prices. OEM CSL wheels are £424 a corner, Suprisingly,CS wheels are exactly the same. Simpson motorsport are selling them for around that mark as well. So unless you find a good set of 2nd hand wheels, I dont think there going to come in for under £1600. BBS CH's are about £290 a corner, but i dont think i'd want to make the car look modified( unless it was stripped, caged and kitted out with AP's and slicks!)

Starting to think again about just getting the OEM's refurbed after seeing AlexM3's car. Just need to make sure i wash them alot during winter and hopfully they will last longer that 8 months!

Thank's to everyone for there advice/information

Stu

Edited by Stu3500 on Friday 20th March 08:05

Edited by Stu3500 on Friday 20th March 09:54

[mat205125]

BBS CH .............. Drooooooooooooooool

[Stu3500]

mat205125 said:

BBS CH .............. Drooooooooooooooool

oh oh!!! more thinking required!!!

Maybe i should just turn it into a track toy and get a garage at the nordschielfe!!

[kds keltec]

Stu3500 said:

I went into my local dealer last night to get some prices. OEM CSL wheels are £424 a corner, Suprisingly,CS wheels are exactly the same. Simpson motorsport are selling them for around that mark as well. So unless you find a good set of 2nd hand wheels, I dont think there going to come in for under £1600. BBS CH's are about £290 a corner, but i dont think i'd want to make the car look modified( unless it was stripped, caged and kitted out AP's and slicks!)

Starting to think again about just getting the OEM's refurbed after seeing AlexM3's car. Just need to make sure a wash them alot during winter and hopfully they will last longer that 8 months!

Thank's to everyone for there advice/information

Stu

Edited by Stu3500 on Friday 20th March 08:05

I had to ring the dealer myself this morning after reading your post..

2 years ago i paid £999 with vat for a set .. 28th march 2007


Just been quoted retail Front £ 406 + vat and Rear £ 424 + vat

Thats £1909 for a set with vat .

Has demand put these wheel prices up so much do you think ???



I have posted on M torque a while back that Lepsons are experimenting with a new process and material for diamond cut wheels , so that they will be able to give a garantee against the finish...

The results of such wheels look stunning ( i have seen them in the metal ) now its just down too testing them for durabilty really !

I can not really post what and how to this process as i am sure other wheel refurbishers would love to know ...

I will post a new thread with any new development .

[Fidgits]

ouch... very expensive..

[gilford]

That is pricey!

I bet with a bit of haggling you can get them down, different dealers charge different prices.

FYI I really DONT like those wheels above, they look like something you would but on an Escort RS Turbo! lol

[daz05]

Guys what about M6 Wheels instead are they any cheaper? In my case on a Imola Z4M Coupe

Pics in link, not sure if they are genuine or not:

http://www.z4coupeaddicts.com/showpost.php?p=5007&...

Whats the consensus, yay or nay?