Z4M Dilema - What would you do?
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OK so I've been hunting for a Roadster for a little while and I've come up with two that are very good but for difference reasons.
Option 1 - 12k on the clock 10k to go till inspection 1 service, mint condition complete with top level warranty so I would have 18 months of warranty on the car. This one is a shade under 19k.
Option 2 - 9k on the clock dealer to do inspection 1 service BUT (this is a big BUT) This car hasnt had its running in service so no mechanical warranty. BUT (this is another big BUT) I'm 99% sure I could get this car for 16k
Having 3k left over for the eventuality of a problem would be peace of mind. I've kind of seen mixed reports of cars having missed the run in service although I understand its not going to be something I can trade in.
I'm never normally indecisive but this little quandry has really got me and I just cant decide what to do!
Any comments would be welcome!
Option 1 - 12k on the clock 10k to go till inspection 1 service, mint condition complete with top level warranty so I would have 18 months of warranty on the car. This one is a shade under 19k.
Option 2 - 9k on the clock dealer to do inspection 1 service BUT (this is a big BUT) This car hasnt had its running in service so no mechanical warranty. BUT (this is another big BUT) I'm 99% sure I could get this car for 16k
Having 3k left over for the eventuality of a problem would be peace of mind. I've kind of seen mixed reports of cars having missed the run in service although I understand its not going to be something I can trade in.
I'm never normally indecisive but this little quandry has really got me and I just cant decide what to do!
Any comments would be welcome!
Edited by fridaypassion on Wednesday 21st January 19:16
If the gearbox goes, you're looking at £2k plus fitting (that was when the £ was worth €1.2).
If the engine goes, you're looking at £8k plus fitting for short engine, the cylinder head alone is about £2000.
If they both go...
However, they may last 100,000 miles and then you won't have to worry about the warranty anyway. Depends if you're looking for a short-term (1-2 years) bit of fun, or intend to keep it 5+ years?
If the engine goes, you're looking at £8k plus fitting for short engine, the cylinder head alone is about £2000.
If they both go...
However, they may last 100,000 miles and then you won't have to worry about the warranty anyway. Depends if you're looking for a short-term (1-2 years) bit of fun, or intend to keep it 5+ years?
Yeah thats what you have to weigh up. I'm not much of a gambling man though lol.
I think We're sticking with the straight one.
Still interested to see where all these cheap Z4M's are though I've been looking for a few weeks and this is the best I've found.
I think We're sticking with the straight one.
Still interested to see where all these cheap Z4M's are though I've been looking for a few weeks and this is the best I've found.
Edited by fridaypassion on Wednesday 21st January 19:49
Its all about putting a value on the runnning service, and therefore the warranty.
Lots of people of here quite rightly say walk away from a car with no running in service.
But if a £20k car with no running service was available for £5k, most people would take it. If on the other hand it was the same price as a car with the running in service, no-one would take it.
You need to decide how much the risk is worth to you.
I would say it also depends how long you intend to keep it. If you think you may sell in a year. Avoid the non run in car. Because any saving you make today will be lost when you sell it. And you would have shouldered the risk for nothing. If you plan to keep it for a good few years, then the saving might be worth the risk.
Lots of people of here quite rightly say walk away from a car with no running in service.
But if a £20k car with no running service was available for £5k, most people would take it. If on the other hand it was the same price as a car with the running in service, no-one would take it.
You need to decide how much the risk is worth to you.
I would say it also depends how long you intend to keep it. If you think you may sell in a year. Avoid the non run in car. Because any saving you make today will be lost when you sell it. And you would have shouldered the risk for nothing. If you plan to keep it for a good few years, then the saving might be worth the risk.
kentmotorcompany said:
Its all about putting a value on the runnning service, and therefore the warranty.
Lots of people of here quite rightly say walk away from a car with no running in service.
But if a £20k car with no running service was available for £5k, most people would take it. If on the other hand it was the same price as a car with the running in service, no-one would take it.
You need to decide how much the risk is worth to you.
I would say it also depends how long you intend to keep it. If you think you may sell in a year. Avoid the non run in car. Because any saving you make today will be lost when you sell it. And you would have shouldered the risk for nothing. If you plan to keep it for a good few years, then the saving might be worth the risk.
A very sensible post. Clearly Kent has had less beer than me.Lots of people of here quite rightly say walk away from a car with no running in service.
But if a £20k car with no running service was available for £5k, most people would take it. If on the other hand it was the same price as a car with the running in service, no-one would take it.
You need to decide how much the risk is worth to you.
I would say it also depends how long you intend to keep it. If you think you may sell in a year. Avoid the non run in car. Because any saving you make today will be lost when you sell it. And you would have shouldered the risk for nothing. If you plan to keep it for a good few years, then the saving might be worth the risk.
Avoid the one without the running in service, £2k isn't a lot if your paying it on finance.
Before I got my Zed I was going to get an E46 M3 and the ones without running in services were much cheaper, I think you'll have big problems selling it later on and any saving you make will be lost.
First one looks ok as long as its got Nav etc, not sure where your getting it from but an AUC car is always best.
Before I got my Zed I was going to get an E46 M3 and the ones without running in services were much cheaper, I think you'll have big problems selling it later on and any saving you make will be lost.
First one looks ok as long as its got Nav etc, not sure where your getting it from but an AUC car is always best.
BMW dealer car gives the assurance that everything is top condition - boy do they prepare cars to a good standard. I bought a Z4M from a main dealer and saw the car before they had done any preparation on it and the way the previous owner (BM Management) had treated the car was in a different league from how I have EVER seen a car. 2yrs old, 26k miles and had only one tiny mark on an alloy, seat looked almost new. NOT treated like a rep car...... Indications of how well car looked after and worth lots of money to me for its potential life (warmed up before being extended etc).
No running-in service means that the oils designed to allow parts to bed-in will have been allowing all the parts to wear out. If you want a potentially worn our diff / gearbox / engine...... Basically I think future re-sale with a bit of mileage on the car would be 'challenging'.
Good luck getting one, they are amazing!
No running-in service means that the oils designed to allow parts to bed-in will have been allowing all the parts to wear out. If you want a potentially worn our diff / gearbox / engine...... Basically I think future re-sale with a bit of mileage on the car would be 'challenging'.
Good luck getting one, they are amazing!
Basically if your out of warrenty and something big fails and you've not had that 1200 mile service. You won't get any sort of help from BMW.
Remember these cars at basic spec were 42k new.. Engines alone cost 10k +
Remember these cars at basic spec were 42k new.. Engines alone cost 10k +
Edited by KENZ on Thursday 22 January 14:47
Edited by KENZ on Thursday 22 January 17:07
lol the coupes are getting very cheap they were originally about 5k more expensive than the roadster no? Seen a couple at about 20k but a bit higher mileage than I was looking to get.
So anyway I hopefully have secured a mint roadster and should be getting it Saturday. 12k on the clock just has its service done, running in check done at 1100 miles (checked history with BMW UK) 6 months BMW warranty left then 1 year top level lloyds warranty (I'm realistic about the value of that although its almost a grand retail!) £18,800.
So anyway I hopefully have secured a mint roadster and should be getting it Saturday. 12k on the clock just has its service done, running in check done at 1100 miles (checked history with BMW UK) 6 months BMW warranty left then 1 year top level lloyds warranty (I'm realistic about the value of that although its almost a grand retail!) £18,800.
David111 said:
No running-in service means that the oils designed to allow parts to bed-in will have been allowing all the parts to wear out. If you want a potentially worn our diff / gearbox / engine...... Basically I think future re-sale with a bit of mileage on the car would be 'challenging'.
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I don't think that is correct at all, the running in service was specifically and exclusively for the engine due to earlier bearing issues, nothing to do with the gearbox or diff, but i still wouldn't buy one that has missed its service, asking for trouble and resale issues IMO!
I miss mine dearly, wish i'd kept it longer before jumping into an M3 now but just couldn't get on with the ride and build issues
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