M6 - Driven........
Discussion
Test drive 12.1mpg
not much surge/power under 5000revs
couldnt describe it as "alive"
felt heavy and big
interior = uninspiring and could have been that of any 6 series
sounds fantastic
smg not as raw as in E46 M3
overall it made me walk away without giving it a second thought, as I begin to realise why prices have dropped so much so quickly.
not much surge/power under 5000revs
couldnt describe it as "alive"
felt heavy and big
interior = uninspiring and could have been that of any 6 series
sounds fantastic
smg not as raw as in E46 M3
overall it made me walk away without giving it a second thought, as I begin to realise why prices have dropped so much so quickly.
Seconded, as teacher would say "must try harder". You must have pressed the wrong buttons & have been in P400, SMG setting 1 & sloppy suspension. As for SMG less raw than the M3, you'll find the M3 runs the older SMGII system & the M5/6 run SMGIII which is most defo a big improvement over the previous BMW SMG attempts. Still not perfect. Next time try a proper Launch & you'll shit yourself.
The M5 is bonkers & an M6 more so given it's lower weight & slightly better balance.
The M5 is bonkers & an M6 more so given it's lower weight & slightly better balance.
Describing a car with this engine as "not alive" is conclusive evidence that either you have never driven anything with a power-to-weight ratio of under 300bhp/tonne or that you didn't have it very long and didn't get to know it. These cars aren't just alive. They are utterly wild. P500S in S5 or S6 is just lunatic.
Zod said:
Describing a car with this engine as "not alive" is conclusive evidence that either you have never driven anything with a power-to-weight ratio of under 300bhp/tonne or that you didn't have it very long and didn't get to know it. These cars aren't just alive. They are utterly wild. P500S in S5 or S6 is just lunatic.
they are Trucks though - the Power to weight would suggest not the fastest either.Hardly a Porsche or TVR competitor. Surely just for Older city types that don't really want to HAVE to REALLY Drive it - just have alot of it done for you.
Sorry to spoil the party, but I drive an M3 SMG. When Is say it wasnt alive - it wasnt alive. It felt less of a sports car than my M3 and I just didnt feel that I was driving anything "sporty". I went out with the salesman, it was in SP500 and on the max gearchange speed and both lights on on the EDS. After the first 100 meters I turned tot he salesman and said: "are you sure I have have 500bhp!!?"
Defo not a sports car - save your money and the petrol and buy a 650 or 645 - you will have 9/10ths of the car without losing a fortune in depreciation!.
Defo not a sports car - save your money and the petrol and buy a 650 or 645 - you will have 9/10ths of the car without losing a fortune in depreciation!.
TP321 said:
Sorry to spoil the party, but I drive an M3 SMG. When Is say it wasnt alive - it wasnt alive. It felt less of a sports car than my M3 and I just didnt feel that I was driving anything "sporty". I went out with the salesman, it was in SP500 and on the max gearchange speed and both lights on on the EDS. After the first 100 meters I turned tot he salesman and said: "are you sure I have have 500bhp!!?"
Defo not a sports car - save your money and the petrol and buy a 650 or 645 - you will have 9/10ths of the car without losing a fortune in depreciation!.
Sounds about right - anything that takes the control of any part of the car away from the drive is a VERY Bad thing.Defo not a sports car - save your money and the petrol and buy a 650 or 645 - you will have 9/10ths of the car without losing a fortune in depreciation!.
For Fat old drivers or those that do not really DRIVE. Barge.
blonde driver said:
TP321 said:
Sorry to spoil the party, but I drive an M3 SMG. When Is say it wasnt alive - it wasnt alive. It felt less of a sports car than my M3 and I just didnt feel that I was driving anything "sporty". I went out with the salesman, it was in SP500 and on the max gearchange speed and both lights on on the EDS. After the first 100 meters I turned tot he salesman and said: "are you sure I have have 500bhp!!?"
Defo not a sports car - save your money and the petrol and buy a 650 or 645 - you will have 9/10ths of the car without losing a fortune in depreciation!.
Sounds about right - anything that takes the control of any part of the car away from the drive is a VERY Bad thing.Defo not a sports car - save your money and the petrol and buy a 650 or 645 - you will have 9/10ths of the car without losing a fortune in depreciation!.
For Fat old drivers or those that do not really DRIVE. Barge.
Well I've had an M3 SMG, a 911 Carrera S, a Lotus, a TVR and various other 'sports cars' and I have to say that, when I first got my E60 M5 I was a little disappointed too.
It does initially seem a little heavy and slow witted.
Get used to it though and take it on an empty country lane and you'll never describe it as that again.
The engine, when you get used to it, is utterly amazing and, as for not having 500BHP, I find that quite comical from somebody who drives an M3 SMG.
An M6 or M5 will utterly destroy an E46 M3 in all conditions and on all roads. The old straight 6 feels totally gutless in comparison to the screaming V10 on full song.
All I can say is, borrow an M6 for a week, take it to the North York Moors and then write your comments again.
It does initially seem a little heavy and slow witted.
Get used to it though and take it on an empty country lane and you'll never describe it as that again.
The engine, when you get used to it, is utterly amazing and, as for not having 500BHP, I find that quite comical from somebody who drives an M3 SMG.
An M6 or M5 will utterly destroy an E46 M3 in all conditions and on all roads. The old straight 6 feels totally gutless in comparison to the screaming V10 on full song.
All I can say is, borrow an M6 for a week, take it to the North York Moors and then write your comments again.
blonde driver said:
Zod said:
Describing a car with this engine as "not alive" is conclusive evidence that either you have never driven anything with a power-to-weight ratio of under 300bhp/tonne or that you didn't have it very long and didn't get to know it. These cars aren't just alive. They are utterly wild. P500S in S5 or S6 is just lunatic.
they are Trucks though - the Power to weight would suggest not the fastest either.Hardly a Porsche or TVR competitor. Surely just for Older city types that don't really want to HAVE to REALLY Drive it - just have alot of it done for you.
TP321 said:
Sorry to spoil the party, but I drive an M3 SMG. When Is say it wasnt alive - it wasnt alive. It felt less of a sports car than my M3 and I just didnt feel that I was driving anything "sporty". I went out with the salesman, it was in SP500 and on the max gearchange speed and both lights on on the EDS. After the first 100 meters I turned tot he salesman and said: "are you sure I have have 500bhp!!?"
Defo not a sports car - save your money and the petrol and buy a 650 or 645 - you will have 9/10ths of the car without losing a fortune in depreciation!.
well, unlike you, I have owned both and the car I had before the M5 was an M3CSL. An M3 SMG feels rather dull and very slow compared with an M5. (A CSL is a different matter entirely).Defo not a sports car - save your money and the petrol and buy a 650 or 645 - you will have 9/10ths of the car without losing a fortune in depreciation!.
Zod said:
TP321 said:
Sorry to spoil the party, but I drive an M3 SMG. When Is say it wasnt alive - it wasnt alive. It felt less of a sports car than my M3 and I just didnt feel that I was driving anything "sporty". I went out with the salesman, it was in SP500 and on the max gearchange speed and both lights on on the EDS. After the first 100 meters I turned tot he salesman and said: "are you sure I have have 500bhp!!?"
Defo not a sports car - save your money and the petrol and buy a 650 or 645 - you will have 9/10ths of the car without losing a fortune in depreciation!.
well, unlike you, I have owned both and the car I had before the M5 was an M3CSL. An M3 SMG feels rather dull and very slow compared with an M5. (A CSL is a different matter entirely).Defo not a sports car - save your money and the petrol and buy a 650 or 645 - you will have 9/10ths of the car without losing a fortune in depreciation!.
Jesus, here we go again...
The V10 naysayers are so wrong it's barely believable: ignorance not seen since the Pendle witch duckings of the 17th Century.
The M6 is the most sublime sporting GT this side of a 599GTB.
Not a TVR or Porsche? Do me a f@cking favour and shut the f@ck up: you have either the IQ of Noo-Noo, the Tweenies' robotic, Martian vacuum or a PhD in Trollery. Or perhaps a teenager who enjoys Top Gear and believes in the chanting mantras of populist 'marque orders.'
To the original poster, do you have a perm, implore people to 'calm down' on a regular basis and inject heroin?
My angst is bourne out of a passion forged from over twelve months' revelling in and unlocking what has to be one of the most deeply engineered feats of self indulgent hoon festing since a man called Jeremy forced me into a Caterham Superlight purchase: yes, it's different to that but with the right psychology and awareness of trick differentials, no less intoxicating.
In fact, as much as I love my recently acquired 996 X50, until that car can find suspended salvation from KW and dilithium deliverance in the engine bay, it remains resolutely the 2nd fiddle in the orchestra of profound schnellerocity, tyre searing flagellation and Vermachtian, battle station totality.
My current moist dream is a CSL variant with 600bhp. It is a car simply too good for the brand and that is it's failing. For those who value the tactile rapture of the hoon over the radiant basking in other morons' gazes and may have thought they needed to spunk a six figure sum on something wedgey, I'm pleased to state, for the record, that you can nail the poonani and buy a small fleet of alternate expresses with the change.
Bullsh1t baffles brains: bo
ocks.
...and breathe.
The V10 naysayers are so wrong it's barely believable: ignorance not seen since the Pendle witch duckings of the 17th Century.
The M6 is the most sublime sporting GT this side of a 599GTB.
Not a TVR or Porsche? Do me a f@cking favour and shut the f@ck up: you have either the IQ of Noo-Noo, the Tweenies' robotic, Martian vacuum or a PhD in Trollery. Or perhaps a teenager who enjoys Top Gear and believes in the chanting mantras of populist 'marque orders.'
To the original poster, do you have a perm, implore people to 'calm down' on a regular basis and inject heroin?
My angst is bourne out of a passion forged from over twelve months' revelling in and unlocking what has to be one of the most deeply engineered feats of self indulgent hoon festing since a man called Jeremy forced me into a Caterham Superlight purchase: yes, it's different to that but with the right psychology and awareness of trick differentials, no less intoxicating.
In fact, as much as I love my recently acquired 996 X50, until that car can find suspended salvation from KW and dilithium deliverance in the engine bay, it remains resolutely the 2nd fiddle in the orchestra of profound schnellerocity, tyre searing flagellation and Vermachtian, battle station totality.
My current moist dream is a CSL variant with 600bhp. It is a car simply too good for the brand and that is it's failing. For those who value the tactile rapture of the hoon over the radiant basking in other morons' gazes and may have thought they needed to spunk a six figure sum on something wedgey, I'm pleased to state, for the record, that you can nail the poonani and buy a small fleet of alternate expresses with the change.
Bullsh1t baffles brains: bo
ocks....and breathe.
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