E92 M3 - quicker than 997S

[edb49]

Thou shalt not compare performance of cars at Bruntingthorpe and post up about said cars on forum. All cars are created equal. Saying one is faster is socially unacceptable and those that do so are to be persecuted.


Edited because it's the original post saying a 997S/RS4/E39 M5 where slower than an M3 didn't sit well with sensibilities of some of the readers.

Edited by edb49 on Saturday 24th November 13:11

[ASBO]

How exciting for you.

[edb49]

Good to have the question answered, but more exciting for M3 owners to be

[sjp63]

edb49 said:

Good to have the question answered, but more exciting for M3 owners to be

Were you using a gameboy?

[JezF]

Maybe the RS4 and Porker owners weren't driving like tits?

[dazren]

Utter sh1te responses. I thought this was the M Power forum.

Ed, great to see your car performing well at the last VMAX.

[sjp63]

Yes M Power not Max Power....

[JezF]

Perhaps he'd have had sensible responses if he'd explained himself?

[edb49]

JezF said:

Perhaps he'd have had sensible responses if he'd explained himself?

Perhaps you shouldn't be so presumptuous, and think twice before calling someone a tit?

[Pugsey]

edb49 said:

Thou shalt not compare performance of cars at Bruntingthorpe and post up about said cars on forum. All cars are created equal. Saying one is faster is socially unacceptable and those that do so are to be persecuted.


Edited because it's the original post saying a 997S/RS4/E39 M5 where slower than an M3 didn't sit well with sensibilities of some of the readers.

Edited by edb49 on Saturday 24th November 13:11

Well? Don't leave it hanging man - what happened. I'm not 100% convinced that my M3 feels quicker than my old 997S (as fast maybe - but quicker?) so would be interested to hear more.

[JezF]

edb49 said:

JezF said:

Perhaps he'd have had sensible responses if he'd explained himself?

Perhaps you shouldn't be so presumptuous, and think twice before calling someone a tit?

lol - maybe, mate. Sorry!

[edb49]

Pugsey said:

Well? Don't leave it hanging man - what happened. I'm not 100% convinced that my M3 feels quicker than my old 997S (as fast maybe - but quicker?) so would be interested to hear more.

At the VMax event mine was noticeably quicker than a 997S in a straight line, until it headbutted the limiter at 161mph.

[flattotheboards]

edb49 said:

Pugsey said:

Well? Don't leave it hanging man - what happened. I'm not 100% convinced that my M3 feels quicker than my old 997S (as fast maybe - but quicker?) so would be interested to hear more.

At the VMax event mine was noticeably quicker than a 997S in a straight line, until it headbutted the limiter at 161mph.

so it wasnt quicker then

[5 wh]

I have owned both 997s and M3 SMG(both convertibles) and the M3 is slightly quicker at most speeds.

[Pugsey]

5 wh said:

I have owned both 997s and M3 SMG(both convertibles) and the M3 is slightly quicker at most speeds.

Explain? How were your M3s quicker at say 70mph than a 997S at 70mph?

Seriously though, I've owned a 997S and a couple of E46 M3s too and neither of the M3s were quite as quick as the Porsche. My new M3 does feel at least as quick as a 997S however and I can believe that it may be quicker. Certainly in the real world on road I think it may be since it seems to have more grunt at low speed in high gears where the Porker might need a down shift to keep up.

[Cheburator mk2]

Pugsey said:

Seriously though, I've owned a 997S and a couple of E46 M3s too and neither of the M3s were quite as quick as the Porsche.

Had a couple of drag races from 70mph to the limiter with a German 997S and the Z4M Coupe was quicker. Also had a play with a 996 GT3 and he could not get away from me either. Why wouldn't the E46 M3, especially an SMG keep up?

[sjp63]

Cheburator mk2 said:

Pugsey said:

Seriously though, I've owned a 997S and a couple of E46 M3s too and neither of the M3s were quite as quick as the Porsche.

Had a couple of drag races from 70mph to the limiter with a German 997S and the Z4M Coupe was quicker. Also had a play with a 996 GT3 and he could not get away from me either. Why wouldn't the E46 M3, especially an SMG keep up?

no no the manual is quicker than the SMG...

[edb49]

At Brunters, the Z4M coupes were impressively quick in a straight line. I was very surprised how close they were to the E92 M3.

[Marki]

edb49 said:

Good to have the question answered, but more exciting for M3 owners to be

But how much are E92 M3`s worth now

[Pugsey]

Cheburator mk2 said:

Pugsey said:

Seriously though, I've owned a 997S and a couple of E46 M3s too and neither of the M3s were quite as quick as the Porsche.

Had a couple of drag races from 70mph to the limiter with a German 997S and the Z4M Coupe was quicker. Also had a play with a 996 GT3 and he could not get away from me either. Why wouldn't the E46 M3, especially an SMG keep up?

I don't doubt your own experiences - and I guess there could be any number of reasons why your Z4M Coupe was quicker or as quick as the Porkers. Similarly my own experiences have suggested that the E46 M3 is not - quite - as quick as a 997S let alone a 996GT3. As to your question why, again I guess there could be a number of reasons but the first one I'd look at would be:- BHP/ton M3 219, 997S 246, GT3 271. You Coupe doesn't make a good E46 M3 yardstick as it is much nearer to the 997S with 241bhp/ton and measurably faster than the M3.

The E92 ups the anti with 254bhp/ton which is why it probably is marginally quicker than the 997S.