E92 M3s: £3000 off list

E92 M3s: £3000 off list

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Deutscher

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1,430 posts

225 months

Tuesday 6th November 2007
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Well, many predicted it was going to happen, but you can already get E92 M3s £3000 off list.

Example here:

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/284767.htm

Surprised it was so quick, though.

Edited by Deutscher on Tuesday 6th November 16:08

Pugsey

5,813 posts

220 months

Tuesday 6th November 2007
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Deutscher said:
Well, many predicted it was going to happen, but you can already get E92 M3s £3000 off list.

Example here:

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/284767.htm

Surprised it was so quick, though.

Edited by Deutscher on Tuesday 6th November 16:08
And?........ As stated in my prev post on another thread WHAT IS your obsession with depreciation on the new M3. It's starting to sound like a bit of green eyed gloating to me.wink Again £3k 'loss' on a new £58k car is nothing. Try driving a lesser new car out of a showroom and see what it's worth after 5 mins let alone 3 weeks! Are you a manic depressive or something?

oola

2,545 posts

229 months

Tuesday 6th November 2007
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Pugsey said:
Again £3k 'loss' on a new £58k car is nothing.
Yes but its only 3 weeks old ....

Deutscher

Original Poster:

1,430 posts

225 months

Tuesday 6th November 2007
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Pugsey said:
And?........ As stated in my prev post on another thread WHAT IS your obsession with depreciation on the new M3. It's starting to sound like a bit of green eyed gloating to me.wink
No not gloating – honest! It's rationalising my disappointment! I was four years on the waiting list and cancelled my order because I felt the car was overpriced.

I would have been gutted if having cancelled, the car then attracted big premiums.

clubsport

7,295 posts

264 months

Tuesday 6th November 2007
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For the peasants amongst us who do have to consider a car depreciating outside of our market expectations this doesn't bode too well for the CSL.

I wonder where the target pricing will be?...after the fairly sharp repricing of the E46 version, things could get interesting if BMW are not careful with supply and distribution.

Any news as to whether the CSL may be available with a manual box as yet?

Pugsey

5,813 posts

220 months

Tuesday 6th November 2007
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oola said:
Pugsey said:
Again £3k 'loss' on a new £58k car is nothing.
Yes but its only 3 weeks old ....
Buy a new Renault whatever and see what it's worth after 5 MINS!! Let alone 3 weeks........

Deutscher

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1,430 posts

225 months

Tuesday 6th November 2007
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clubsport said:
For the peasants amongst us who do have to consider a car depreciating outside of our market expectations...
Great phrase, clubsport. thumbup

Sums up my position exactly.

I can afford a £50k ish car, BUT ONLY if it's a low depreciator – hence my obsession.

Pugsey

5,813 posts

220 months

Tuesday 6th November 2007
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Deutscher said:
Pugsey said:
And?........ As stated in my prev post on another thread WHAT IS your obsession with depreciation on the new M3. It's starting to sound like a bit of green eyed gloating to me.wink
No not gloating – honest! It's rationalising my disappointment! I was four years on the waiting list and cancelled my order because I felt the car was overpriced.

I would have been gutted if having cancelled, the car then attracted big premiums.
Yes I can understand that - just having a little fun.smile What are your plans instead then?

Pugsey

5,813 posts

220 months

Tuesday 6th November 2007
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Deutscher said:
clubsport said:
For the peasants amongst us who do have to consider a car depreciating outside of our market expectations...
Great phrase, clubsport. thumbup

Sums up my position exactly.

I can afford a £50k ish car, BUT ONLY if it's a low depreciator – hence my obsession.
Nothing wrong with counting the pennies.... just don't miss out on the fun along the way.wink Blimey come on though chaps - what an earth DO you call a low depreciator then?

Deutscher

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1,430 posts

225 months

Tuesday 6th November 2007
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Thinking about a top spec 6-month old Z4MC for around £32k when I'm down and an early 997 for £50k when I'm up!

Edited by Deutscher on Tuesday 6th November 17:37

outnumbered

4,323 posts

240 months

Tuesday 6th November 2007
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The rear 3/4 view in that advert is a real mess.

Pugsey

5,813 posts

220 months

Tuesday 6th November 2007
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Deutscher said:
Thinking about a top spec 6-month old Z4MC for around £32k when I'm down and an early 997 for £50k when I'm up!

Edited by Deutscher on Tuesday 6th November 17:37
Good choices - but go for the Z, after all you don't sound like one to follow the herd and it's so much more FUN than the 997. Sod which is supposedly the 'better' car.

jezzaaa

1,889 posts

265 months

Tuesday 6th November 2007
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Pugsey said:
Deutscher said:
clubsport said:
For the peasants amongst us who do have to consider a car depreciating outside of our market expectations...
Great phrase, clubsport. thumbup

Sums up my position exactly.

I can afford a £50k ish car, BUT ONLY if it's a low depreciator – hence my obsession.
Nothing wrong with counting the pennies.... just don't miss out on the fun along the way.wink Blimey come on though chaps - what an earth DO you call a low depreciator then?
I think the point is that, yet again and as with the AMV8, lots of speculators are going to make a loss on their cars even after such a short time with no mileage to speak of. So more of them will bug out of picking up their cars when they come through...so you'll be able to get a new one immediately and the price of used ones (however lightly) will go south.

It's interesting looking back in the forums...Deutcher and I had many conversations about whether the release of the E92 M3 would affect E46 prices. More than ever, it's clear that it will. If E92's are already being sold below list mere months after release, then that must have an effect on residuals of all the E46s...the most expensive latest ones will drop according to the value of the E92s...and of course that drop will cascade all the way down the line to the earliest ones.

As you say, Deutcher me old mate, £50K cars are viable for alot of people provided you have a reasonable expectation of getting a decent resale value in 2 or 3 years time. I'd love to say I could afford them regardless of depreciation, but sadly I'm not in that bracket....and if I was, I'd probably be looking at much more expensive metal!

Beedub

1,993 posts

232 months

Tuesday 6th November 2007
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Deutscher said:
Well, many predicted it was going to happen, but you can already get E92 M3s £3000 off list.

Example here:

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/284767.htm

Surprised it was so quick, though.

Edited by Deutscher on Tuesday 6th November 16:08
wow that looks gorgeous in that colour!!! i want one!! now!!

RS4john

331 posts

215 months

Tuesday 6th November 2007
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FFS as I said some time ago and got "Flamed" for it, the New M3 as any other 50+K motor will be available NOW (waiting lists are B*llocks)
and all cars are open to offers from the off.
I have had a look at the new 6 series 635D (just out this week) and already been offered a 12.5 % discount and thats without trying.
We will take a good "hit" on these cars after only one DAY never mind three weeks, but we live with it, cos we love our cars and want what WE want now and are prepaired to pay for the privelege.nuts

Zod

35,295 posts

264 months

Tuesday 6th November 2007
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RS4john said:
FFS as I said some time ago and got "Flamed" for it, the New M3 as any other 50+K motor will be available NOW (waiting lists are B*llocks)
and all cars are open to offers from the off.
I have had a look at the new 6 series 635D (just out this week) and already been offered a 12.5 % discount and thats without trying.
We will take a good "hit" on these cars after only one DAY never mind three weeks, but we live with it, cos we love our cars and want what WE want now and are prepaired to pay for the privelege.nuts
You got flamed because you are a troll.

(and you can't spell)

jezzaaa

1,889 posts

265 months

Wednesday 7th November 2007
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Zod said:
RS4john said:
FFS as I said some time ago and got "Flamed" for it, the New M3 as any other 50+K motor will be available NOW (waiting lists are B*llocks)
and all cars are open to offers from the off.
I have had a look at the new 6 series 635D (just out this week) and already been offered a 12.5 % discount and thats without trying.
We will take a good "hit" on these cars after only one DAY never mind three weeks, but we live with it, cos we love our cars and want what WE want now and are prepaired to pay for the privelege.nuts
You got flamed because you are a troll.

(and you can't spell)
Sorry - have I missed something?? Why is he a troll?

I agree with RS4John re the waiting lists. There were some cars that were so short in supply that the values stayed high for ages. But BMW and Aston and most others are all in the volume game now. There's no way they'll stifle supply and allow waiting lists just to protect residuals...they want to shift metal. If the demand is there, you can bet they'll make enough cars to satisfy it. So, short waiting lists for new ones...and no short term profit for speculators.

Edited by jezzaaa on Wednesday 7th November 18:11

RS4john

331 posts

215 months

Wednesday 7th November 2007
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Zod said:
RS4john said:
FFS as I said some time ago and got "Flamed" for it, the New M3 as any other 50+K motor will be available NOW (waiting lists are B*llocks)
and all cars are open to offers from the off.
I have had a look at the new 6 series 635D (just out this week) and already been offered a 12.5 % discount and thats without trying.
We will take a good "hit" on these cars after only one DAY never mind three weeks, but we live with it, cos we love our cars and want what WE want now and are prepaired to pay for the privelege.nuts
You got flamed because you are a troll.

(and you can't spell)
Yippy............ you forgot the "rich" bit. jester

Edited by RS4john on Wednesday 7th November 21:51

Zod

35,295 posts

264 months

Wednesday 7th November 2007
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Rich? WTF would that have to do with anything? rolleyes

Zod

35,295 posts

264 months

Wednesday 7th November 2007
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jezzaaa said:
Zod said:
RS4john said:
FFS as I said some time ago and got "Flamed" for it, the New M3 as any other 50+K motor will be available NOW (waiting lists are B*llocks)
and all cars are open to offers from the off.
I have had a look at the new 6 series 635D (just out this week) and already been offered a 12.5 % discount and thats without trying.
We will take a good "hit" on these cars after only one DAY never mind three weeks, but we live with it, cos we love our cars and want what WE want now and are prepaired to pay for the privelege.nuts
You got flamed because you are a troll.

(and you can't spell)
Sorry - have I missed something?? Why is he a troll?

I agree with RS4John re the waiting lists. There were some cars that were so short in supply that the values stayed high for ages. But BMW and Aston and most others are all in the volume game now. There's no way they'll stifle supply and allow waiting lists just to protect residuals...they want to shift metal. If the demand is there, you can bet they'll make enough cars to satisfy it. So, short waiting lists for new ones...and no short term profit for speculators.

Edited by jezzaaa on Wednesday 7th November 18:11
He has been trolling mtorque (bm3w) and latterly this forum for months.