What on earth possessed them?...
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Lovely E36 M3 for sale, very low miles... http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/158922.htm
But what on earth posessed the original buyer to delete the air-con?
But what on earth posessed the original buyer to delete the air-con?
how do you fully delete a sunroof???
deleting the aircon give's you more power by getting rid of the parasitic loss it causes even when not being used(rotating pulleys off the crank ect)also some people(me included) dont like aircon because it gives you a dry throat and also freon gas isnt very nice to you
deleting the aircon give's you more power by getting rid of the parasitic loss it causes even when not being used(rotating pulleys off the crank ect)also some people(me included) dont like aircon because it gives you a dry throat and also freon gas isnt very nice to you
MitchT said:
Lovely E36 M3 for sale, very low miles... http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/158922.htm
But what on earth posessed the original buyer to delete the air-con?
I think 'deleted' is the wrong word. It was more like 'not selected' on the options list ...But what on earth posessed the original buyer to delete the air-con?
cluelesscarnut said:
how do you fully delete a sunroof???
I guess by using the 'delete' option when ordering the car new.cluelesscarnut said:
deleting the aircon give's you more power by getting rid of the parasitic loss it causes even when not being used(rotating pulleys off the crank ect)also some people(me included) dont like aircon because it gives you a dry throat and also freon gas isnt very nice to you
I see your point but personally I think you're gonna screw your chances of being able to sell the car later if you delete the air-con. Most people expect air-con on cars like this, regardless of any disadvantages it may bring.oola said:
I think 'deleted' is the wrong word. It was more like 'not selected' on the options list ...
M3s of this age had air-con as standard, but a number of features had a 'delete' option so you could specify the car without them, so in that respect 'deleted' is the right term. Looking through some old BMW brochues I notice that they don't seem to reduce the price when an item that's an expensive option on lesser models is deleted from a model on which the item is standard!I very nearly bought this car and I have to admit I'm surprised to see it still for sale as it's surely beeen on the market for three months now.
While the price the vendor was asking wasn't too extortionate, I was put off by the fact that, for the mileage, I felt it was in less than perfect condition.
Also, I think many will be put off by the fact that the car has done little but sit rotting for 8/9 years.
While the price the vendor was asking wasn't too extortionate, I was put off by the fact that, for the mileage, I felt it was in less than perfect condition.
Also, I think many will be put off by the fact that the car has done little but sit rotting for 8/9 years.
RichBurley said:
It's not worth £12995 by any stretch though; it's more than 10 years old now. You could no dobut find a better, newer M3 Evo for less money.
Whilst I am perhaps slightly biased, I paid more than that for a 30k mile example 2 months ago. After much scouring, it seems that the really mint low-milage examples demand mega-money.Schnell said:
RichBurley said:
It's not worth £12995 by any stretch though; it's more than 10 years old now. You could no dobut find a better, newer M3 Evo for less money.
Whilst I am perhaps slightly biased, I paid more than that for a 30k mile example 2 months ago. After much scouring, it seems that the really mint low-milage examples demand mega-money.If you wanted a cracking E36 Evo with stupidly low miles to complete a collection then 12-13K isn't that daft - we live in the age where old 2002's are making 5K plus, and decent E30 325 sports are strengthening towards 5K.
I entirely agree with everything already said here...
Odd spec...neither A/C nor sunroof...on a road car?
But leaving those inescapable facts aside for a moment...
IMHO that particular car now lies in a 'difficult' situation:
Whilst the car does still retain very low mileage its inherent potential value, over and above other examples, is based SOLELY upon this mileage. It's excess value lies in a potential collector-buyer purchasing it to "put away"...any normal useage will destroy that potential value. Thus, the car can (and should) be driven (and have been) only rarely driven to retain that value.
As Schnell describes (he having actually viewed the car) I'm not entirely surprised by the less than perfect condition he found....looking at the photos and description one gets a "sixth sense"?
Above all though...the most foolhardy thing to have done was for the current owner to have TRIPLED its previous 8 years worth of mileage within the space of one year!
Even though the mileage remains extra-ordinarily low that smacks of:
"Well, I've had my fun and extensively enjoyed the car for a year...after someone else kept it in cotton wool for 8 years...now you can buy from me at a premium price".
That, I think, is why no one has bought it.
A pity really...as I'm sure it wasn't really necessary to do those 4000 miles in it in a year? I've done less than 400 miles this year in my 840Ci Sport...In other words, it would take 10 years at that rate to 'enjoy' what this guy has done in this M3.
I wonder and it will be interesting to see what happens...
Odd spec...neither A/C nor sunroof...on a road car?
But leaving those inescapable facts aside for a moment...
IMHO that particular car now lies in a 'difficult' situation:
Whilst the car does still retain very low mileage its inherent potential value, over and above other examples, is based SOLELY upon this mileage. It's excess value lies in a potential collector-buyer purchasing it to "put away"...any normal useage will destroy that potential value. Thus, the car can (and should) be driven (and have been) only rarely driven to retain that value.
As Schnell describes (he having actually viewed the car) I'm not entirely surprised by the less than perfect condition he found....looking at the photos and description one gets a "sixth sense"?
Above all though...the most foolhardy thing to have done was for the current owner to have TRIPLED its previous 8 years worth of mileage within the space of one year!
Even though the mileage remains extra-ordinarily low that smacks of:
"Well, I've had my fun and extensively enjoyed the car for a year...after someone else kept it in cotton wool for 8 years...now you can buy from me at a premium price".
That, I think, is why no one has bought it.
A pity really...as I'm sure it wasn't really necessary to do those 4000 miles in it in a year? I've done less than 400 miles this year in my 840Ci Sport...In other words, it would take 10 years at that rate to 'enjoy' what this guy has done in this M3.
I wonder and it will be interesting to see what happens...
steve996 said:
decent E30 325 sports are strengthening towards 5K.
Yeah, I keep looking at them. The first car I drove after passing my test was an E30 325i Sport in Dolphin Grey. It was already one of my dream cars and to end up working for someone who owned one and get to drive it, at 20 years of age, was amazing! I was following an immaculate silver G-reg example from Shipley to Cottingley earlier this evening and got that feeling again. I really am tempted!I have a 98 m3 when I bought it a few months back it had 28,987 miles all warranted & checked etc before I bought the car,the reason for such low miles was the preveious owner was a university lecturer who also lectures & lives in USA & he had the car from new.
Its now just clicked over to 30,000 miles & i must admit it did hurt LOL, no I have bought the car for fun & to enjoy I obviously do not want to throw money away .
1st of all I am going to enjoy the car & I'm not thinking of selling in the next few years so I am not going tom worry to much ,if I did whats the point of owning it ??
If I wanted to invest in something it would be in paintings or wine,M3's are there to enjoy,not go to work ,not for shopping for trolleys to hit ,but to go out & drive !
Its now just clicked over to 30,000 miles & i must admit it did hurt LOL, no I have bought the car for fun & to enjoy I obviously do not want to throw money away .
1st of all I am going to enjoy the car & I'm not thinking of selling in the next few years so I am not going tom worry to much ,if I did whats the point of owning it ??
If I wanted to invest in something it would be in paintings or wine,M3's are there to enjoy,not go to work ,not for shopping for trolleys to hit ,but to go out & drive !
Interesting topic, when i was looking for an E36 M3 i budgeted 10K for a really good low miles car (circa 60/70k) but found most of the ones in this range were either SMG or soft tops.
I found it really quite difficult to find an Evo coupe/manual/top condition in this price/spec bracket. In the end i thought "Sod it" and spent nearly 4k less on a higher mileage (105k) car that had all the right attributes.
After owning the car for 7 months i'm so glad i went for the higher miles option as it's been a pleasure to own so far, i can understand why lower miles is an attractive proposition but i don't believe for a second that super low miles is worth the premiums people are trying to achieve with these cars. They are VERY well engineered and will do big miles.
Just my 2 penneth..
I found it really quite difficult to find an Evo coupe/manual/top condition in this price/spec bracket. In the end i thought "Sod it" and spent nearly 4k less on a higher mileage (105k) car that had all the right attributes.
After owning the car for 7 months i'm so glad i went for the higher miles option as it's been a pleasure to own so far, i can understand why lower miles is an attractive proposition but i don't believe for a second that super low miles is worth the premiums people are trying to achieve with these cars. They are VERY well engineered and will do big miles.
Just my 2 penneth..
pat_y said:
Interesting topic, when i was looking for an E36 M3 i budgeted 10K for a really good low miles car (circa 60/70k) but found most of the ones in this range were either SMG or soft tops.
Tell me about it. I saw a stunning M3 coupé for sale the other day. 59k miles, Atlantis blue, black interior with contrasting Lotus White leather, less than £10k... exactly what I want. I was all set to pick up the phone when I noticed it was an SMG. I'm sure SMG is fine if you're into that kind of thing but to me more technology basically translates to more expense if something goes wrong, and besides I like manuals 'cause I possess testosterone. All the 'individual' ones I have seen are SMGs. It's doing my head in!Edited by MitchT on Tuesday 11th September 18:21
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