M4 CS… any good?
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I have went in blind and dropped a deposit on one.
I am attracted to these as a car that can be used as a relatively practical car but also one that can be used for an early Sunday morning blast in the lakes, moors or the borders. As well as being a little special.
Journos seem to say it drives very differently to the M4 even with the comp pack?!? Which I was suprised to hear.
Not had chance to look round one and the one I’m getting is 300miles away so will be a case of train down and drive it back.
Are they really much different to a comp pack…?
The one I am getting had a RRP of around £106k!! Bonkers of course no one will have paid close to that.
I am attracted to these as a car that can be used as a relatively practical car but also one that can be used for an early Sunday morning blast in the lakes, moors or the borders. As well as being a little special.
Journos seem to say it drives very differently to the M4 even with the comp pack?!? Which I was suprised to hear.
Not had chance to look round one and the one I’m getting is 300miles away so will be a case of train down and drive it back.
Are they really much different to a comp pack…?
The one I am getting had a RRP of around £106k!! Bonkers of course no one will have paid close to that.
Is that a current or previous generation M4 you are looking at?
I've driven an F82 a few times recently and experienced one on track and they are very good fun. The lack of door cards and interior armrest is a bit frustrating though. I can't really compare to a regular M4 or a Comp though, the last M4 I drove before that was in 2016 I think.
I've driven an F82 a few times recently and experienced one on track and they are very good fun. The lack of door cards and interior armrest is a bit frustrating though. I can't really compare to a regular M4 or a Comp though, the last M4 I drove before that was in 2016 I think.
e said:MikeM6 said:
Is that a current or previous generation M4 you are looking at?
I've driven an F82 a few times recently and experienced one on track and they are very good fun. The lack of door cards and interior armrest is a bit frustrating though. I can't really compare to a regular M4 or a Comp though, the last M4 I drove before that was in 2016 I think.
I owned previous gen M3cs and it is amongst the best cars I have ever owned. Did sell but will buy another for sure.I've driven an F82 a few times recently and experienced one on track and they are very good fun. The lack of door cards and interior armrest is a bit frustrating though. I can't really compare to a regular M4 or a Comp though, the last M4 I drove before that was in 2016 I think.
As for "Bonkers of course no one will have paid close to that" I doubt that CS's are discounted.
TX.
MikeM6 said:
Is that a current or previous generation M4 you are looking at?
I've driven an F82 a few times recently and experienced one on track and they are very good fun. The lack of door cards and interior armrest is a bit frustrating though. I can't really compare to a regular M4 or a Comp though, the last M4 I drove before that was in 2016 I think.
2018 F series. Yeah lack of an arm rest may get tedious. Best pack a pillow.I've driven an F82 a few times recently and experienced one on track and they are very good fun. The lack of door cards and interior armrest is a bit frustrating though. I can't really compare to a regular M4 or a Comp though, the last M4 I drove before that was in 2016 I think.
Terminator X said:
I owned previous gen M3cs and it is amongst the best cars I have ever owned. Did sell but will buy another for sure.
As for "Bonkers of course no one will have paid close to that" I doubt that CS's are discounted.
TX.
I initially wanted an M3 but then came to the conclusion my kids will very rarely be getting in it and the door handles, rear lights etc made me think maybe get the cheaper M4….. As for "Bonkers of course no one will have paid close to that" I doubt that CS's are discounted.
TX.
Lack of armrest is a total non issue. You can still rest your arm quite comfortable on the centre alcantara bit but I found myself just driving with 2 hands on the lovely alcantara wheel more because of it.
£106k seems a stretch, my old one was £100,600 and this had everything except TV tuner and electric rear blind.
I ended up paying £82k and got 0% as it had sat unsold for about 11 months
Best car I’ve had. Wish I still had it.
£106k seems a stretch, my old one was £100,600 and this had everything except TV tuner and electric rear blind.
I ended up paying £82k and got 0% as it had sat unsold for about 11 months
Best car I’ve had. Wish I still had it.
Colinv6 said:
Lack of armrest is a total non issue. You can still rest your arm quite comfortable on the centre alcantara bit but I found myself just driving with 2 hands on the lovely alcantara wheel more because of it.
£106k seems a stretch, my old one was £100,600 and this had everything except TV tuner and electric rear blind.
I ended up paying £82k and got 0% as it had sat unsold for about 11 months
Best car I’ve had. Wish I still had it.
I found the centre console to just be a little lower than expected without the armrest, not a dela breaker as such, but it's slightly less comfortable because of it. The bigger problem was the door cards, as they have no pockets or handles, so opening them in narrow spaces is a little tricky. £106k seems a stretch, my old one was £100,600 and this had everything except TV tuner and electric rear blind.
I ended up paying £82k and got 0% as it had sat unsold for about 11 months
Best car I’ve had. Wish I still had it.
As a toy it is a lot of fun though. Quite impressive how it picks up speed and hangs on when pushing hard on track, at least from the passenger seat. Feels very firm in any settings, but usable in comfort.
It's about as quick to 100mph as my M6 is, based on real world testing, but I can't say if it's much quicker than any other M4 though.
I will say it looks stunning in San Marino Blue, probably peak BMW. I may need to go and borrow it again sometime soon.
On a long journey I expect I’d want an armrest personally as both my dailies have them and swing them down when driving. But of course that’s mundane drive. I am hoping not many of my trips in the CS will be mundane, but hope to get into Europe in it next year so may have to sort a lm alcantara covered foam insert
Hope it won’t unbalance the car too much
Has PS4’s on at the minute so will change to Cup2’s come summer and may sneak a track day in
Hope it won’t unbalance the car too much
Has PS4’s on at the minute so will change to Cup2’s come summer and may sneak a track day in
Terminator X said:
Well played.
Odd that the M4cs seems to be cheaper than the M3 given it has the banzai rear lights and special door cards etc vs the M3 that doesn't!
TX.
Yeah I mean I do think the M3 is the cooler option but not 10k cooler.Odd that the M4cs seems to be cheaper than the M3 given it has the banzai rear lights and special door cards etc vs the M3 that doesn't!
TX.
I did initially want the M3 but I thought the kids will rarely if ever be coming out with me when I get it out the garage so may as well go for the more unique (vs it’s siblings) M4
I had an F80 M3 and traded it for an M4 CS - 35k miles in the M3 and 18k miles in the M4CS both used as my daily driver as well as some B road blasts and on track.
The M4 CS felt more special every time you got in it and lots of small improvements made a big difference to how the car drove - if you just looked at the stats it was a massive amount more money for a few BHP and according to the manufacturer no actual weight loss despite the carbon bonnet, lightweight forged alloys, carbon ceramic rotors, reduced sound deadening, lightweight door cards, centre console etc. I suspect the cars were a decent bit lighter than the standard M4 or comp.
The suspension whilst being firmer felt more compliant and able to keep the wheels in contact with the road over humps and hollows.
The engine tune encouraged holding onto gears longer and chasing the red line vs riding massive turbo torque available from 1800 RPM right through. Also to help this the traction control and DSC settings seemed to allow a lot more slip and angle before intervening, also the M4CS felt far more progressive vs the M3 which was quite snappy and prevented using much of the available power.
The MSP Cup 2s are what the car was tuned to run and are absolutely brilliant in dry and warm conditions but do not work at all well over the winter so I would advise in getting a set of winter rims and tyres.
The M4CS felt like quite a weapon on track thanks to the level of grip available making the most of the power and braking performance available - just beware how quickly track use can wear out CCM rotors / glaze pads etc and they are very expensive items to replace.
I regret selling mine and do miss it still - at the time I had an AMG E63S wagon and the M4CS and would always choose taking the CS unless taking passengers despite the attraction of the AMG's V8 and laugh out loud performance
The M4 CS felt more special every time you got in it and lots of small improvements made a big difference to how the car drove - if you just looked at the stats it was a massive amount more money for a few BHP and according to the manufacturer no actual weight loss despite the carbon bonnet, lightweight forged alloys, carbon ceramic rotors, reduced sound deadening, lightweight door cards, centre console etc. I suspect the cars were a decent bit lighter than the standard M4 or comp.
The suspension whilst being firmer felt more compliant and able to keep the wheels in contact with the road over humps and hollows.
The engine tune encouraged holding onto gears longer and chasing the red line vs riding massive turbo torque available from 1800 RPM right through. Also to help this the traction control and DSC settings seemed to allow a lot more slip and angle before intervening, also the M4CS felt far more progressive vs the M3 which was quite snappy and prevented using much of the available power.
The MSP Cup 2s are what the car was tuned to run and are absolutely brilliant in dry and warm conditions but do not work at all well over the winter so I would advise in getting a set of winter rims and tyres.
The M4CS felt like quite a weapon on track thanks to the level of grip available making the most of the power and braking performance available - just beware how quickly track use can wear out CCM rotors / glaze pads etc and they are very expensive items to replace.
I regret selling mine and do miss it still - at the time I had an AMG E63S wagon and the M4CS and would always choose taking the CS unless taking passengers despite the attraction of the AMG's V8 and laugh out loud performance
JC 73 said:
I had an F80 M3 and traded it for an M4 CS - 35k miles in the M3 and 18k miles in the M4CS both used as my daily driver as well as some B road blasts and on track.
The M4 CS felt more special every time you got in it and lots of small improvements made a big difference to how the car drove - if you just looked at the stats it was a massive amount more money for a few BHP and according to the manufacturer no actual weight loss despite the carbon bonnet, lightweight forged alloys, carbon ceramic rotors, reduced sound deadening, lightweight door cards, centre console etc. I suspect the cars were a decent bit lighter than the standard M4 or comp.
The suspension whilst being firmer felt more compliant and able to keep the wheels in contact with the road over humps and hollows.
The engine tune encouraged holding onto gears longer and chasing the red line vs riding massive turbo torque available from 1800 RPM right through. Also to help this the traction control and DSC settings seemed to allow a lot more slip and angle before intervening, also the M4CS felt far more progressive vs the M3 which was quite snappy and prevented using much of the available power.
The MSP Cup 2s are what the car was tuned to run and are absolutely brilliant in dry and warm conditions but do not work at all well over the winter so I would advise in getting a set of winter rims and tyres.
The M4CS felt like quite a weapon on track thanks to the level of grip available making the most of the power and braking performance available - just beware how quickly track use can wear out CCM rotors / glaze pads etc and they are very expensive items to replace.
I regret selling mine and do miss it still - at the time I had an AMG E63S wagon and the M4CS and would always choose taking the CS unless taking passengers despite the attraction of the AMG's V8 and laugh out loud performance
Good insight to someone’s ownership who’s put a number of miles under there belt.The M4 CS felt more special every time you got in it and lots of small improvements made a big difference to how the car drove - if you just looked at the stats it was a massive amount more money for a few BHP and according to the manufacturer no actual weight loss despite the carbon bonnet, lightweight forged alloys, carbon ceramic rotors, reduced sound deadening, lightweight door cards, centre console etc. I suspect the cars were a decent bit lighter than the standard M4 or comp.
The suspension whilst being firmer felt more compliant and able to keep the wheels in contact with the road over humps and hollows.
The engine tune encouraged holding onto gears longer and chasing the red line vs riding massive turbo torque available from 1800 RPM right through. Also to help this the traction control and DSC settings seemed to allow a lot more slip and angle before intervening, also the M4CS felt far more progressive vs the M3 which was quite snappy and prevented using much of the available power.
The MSP Cup 2s are what the car was tuned to run and are absolutely brilliant in dry and warm conditions but do not work at all well over the winter so I would advise in getting a set of winter rims and tyres.
The M4CS felt like quite a weapon on track thanks to the level of grip available making the most of the power and braking performance available - just beware how quickly track use can wear out CCM rotors / glaze pads etc and they are very expensive items to replace.
I regret selling mine and do miss it still - at the time I had an AMG E63S wagon and the M4CS and would always choose taking the CS unless taking passengers despite the attraction of the AMG's V8 and laugh out loud performance
Did you track it then I presume? I was thinking about getting mine on track but maybe I should have got one with the standard brakes.
How ironic that the ceramic brakes aren’t ideal for tracking as you run the risc of destroying them!
Still they look mega.
I am hoping to do a couple of road trips next year and pile on a few miles.
Yes I did maybe half a dozen track days in it and the visual wear markers - small circles - on the CCM discs were showing signs of pitting which other than taking them off and weighing them is the only guide to wear as the surface doesn’t wear down rather the fibres inside the disc effectively burn hence loss of mass. They work brilliantly and you have massive stopping power which doesn’t fade like the standard steel set up which from my experience with the M3 didn’t stand up well to track use with discs warping. If I was going to keep I would still want to use on track and as such I needed to budget for a set of discs and pads at some stage in the next 12 months which is a £10k job.
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