E9X or F80 M3 - Whats The Better Daily?
Discussion
As above, thoughts please...
Will be mainly town driving with a few jaunts up north a year.
What's easier to live with?
I like the interior of the F80 but driving it was dull, E9X it felt special to drive but the interior felt very bland thus can't decide what to pursue in the near future.
Will be mainly town driving with a few jaunts up north a year.
What's easier to live with?
I like the interior of the F80 but driving it was dull, E9X it felt special to drive but the interior felt very bland thus can't decide what to pursue in the near future.
[quote=TheGreatDane]
Will be mainly town driving with a few jaunts up north a year.
What's easier to live with?
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Not owned the F80 but I had an E92 for a couple of years. Town is not their natural home as they have no low-down torque and only come into their best at 4,000 rpm +. Also shocking fuel consumption in town (actually fuel consumption was pretty bad everywhere!).
Plus I'd have thought the interior is very dated by now. For me it's the F80 all day.
Will be mainly town driving with a few jaunts up north a year.
What's easier to live with?
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Not owned the F80 but I had an E92 for a couple of years. Town is not their natural home as they have no low-down torque and only come into their best at 4,000 rpm +. Also shocking fuel consumption in town (actually fuel consumption was pretty bad everywhere!).
Plus I'd have thought the interior is very dated by now. For me it's the F80 all day.
As a daily around town a 320i would likely be better than either, so it comes down to how much a slightly dated interior bothers you (carplay / android auto is easy to retrofit) or how much you value sound, mpg etc.
Both will be nice to have, but the f80 would be easier, the e9x more special.
Both will be nice to have, but the f80 would be easier, the e9x more special.
F80 will be the better daily car. Its a much more modern interior and I think the extra practicality of 4 doors helps. Potentially will be cheaper to run and fuel will be better. You won't have the howl of the V8 on those weekend blasts but if you're 95% dailying, then its a price to pay. My view is that if I dailyed my E92, then I'd probably get a bit bored as it wouldn't feel quite as special ...
Although there's obviously no absolute correlation between age and reliability, I would suggest this might be a facto too if you're looking to daily one of them.
Both of my E92s were problematic, even without any issues with rod bearings or throttle actuators. Sensors, calipers, software issues, fuel delivery problems, batteries failed on both etc.
I would also echo the comment about the poor economy. Very early manual E9x can also have a very obstructive gear change between 1st and 2nd, so heavy traffic can be an exercise in frustration.
Likewise I think the F80 lacks a bit of 'x-factor' but has a good balance of abilities for a daily driver.
Both of my E92s were problematic, even without any issues with rod bearings or throttle actuators. Sensors, calipers, software issues, fuel delivery problems, batteries failed on both etc.
I would also echo the comment about the poor economy. Very early manual E9x can also have a very obstructive gear change between 1st and 2nd, so heavy traffic can be an exercise in frustration.
Likewise I think the F80 lacks a bit of 'x-factor' but has a good balance of abilities for a daily driver.
I can only speak for the F80 but mine has been an excellent daily. Stick it all in comfort in the wet and it's fine and then Sport Plus when the roads open up. The gearbox (mine is the Auto) is jerky at low speed but does the job pretty well. Seats are good and it's comfortable on the motorway. Averaging around 24mpg on mostly town driving with the occasional blast.
The one big criticism of mine is that as a standard, non-comp car, the sound is a let down. I'll likely get round to replacing the exhaust with something better at some point but it will never compete with the V8.
The one big criticism of mine is that as a standard, non-comp car, the sound is a let down. I'll likely get round to replacing the exhaust with something better at some point but it will never compete with the V8.
HighwayStar said:
MikeM6 said:
Surprised Lee hasn't chimed in about the lack of torque yet...
Give it time…
The F80 M3/F82 M4 makes a miles better daily for me. I'd go for the E9x M3 as a weekend car though.
As everyone knows I didn't get on very well at all with my E92 M3 as a daily. Max power at 8400rpm, and a relatively low torque figure mated to a 1650kg kerbweight didn't make me very happy on my commute.
I wasn't keen on the 250 mile range to a tank and the 17mpg either! You can't expect a V8 to be economical though, so that was definitely my own fault.
cerb4.5lee said:
Sorry I'm late!
The F80 M3/F82 M4 makes a miles better daily for me. I'd go for the E9x M3 as a weekend car though.
As everyone knows I didn't get on very well at all with my E92 M3 as a daily. Max power at 8400rpm, and a relatively low torque figure mated to a 1650kg kerbweight didn't make me very happy on my commute.
I wasn't keen on the 250 mile range to a tank and the 17mpg either! You can't expect a V8 to be economical though, so that was definitely my own fault.
What kind of mpg are you seeing on your M4?The F80 M3/F82 M4 makes a miles better daily for me. I'd go for the E9x M3 as a weekend car though.
As everyone knows I didn't get on very well at all with my E92 M3 as a daily. Max power at 8400rpm, and a relatively low torque figure mated to a 1650kg kerbweight didn't make me very happy on my commute.
I wasn't keen on the 250 mile range to a tank and the 17mpg either! You can't expect a V8 to be economical though, so that was definitely my own fault.
My old 335i gave around 17mpg around town so the E9x mpg doesn't seem so bad.
TheGreatDane said:
What kind of mpg are you seeing on your M4?
My old 335i gave around 17mpg around town so the E9x mpg doesn't seem so bad.
OBC is currently saying 28.5 mpg. So I'm pleased with that given the performance. My old E90 330i auto only returned 26mpg in comparison with the same usage pattern. My old 335i gave around 17mpg around town so the E9x mpg doesn't seem so bad.
I filled it up yesterday and it gave me a range of 428 miles, and you wouldn't see anywhere near that out of the E92 M3 in comparison.
The ride and the induction noise are far better in the E92 M3 for me though. The ride is really harsh in the M4, whereas the ride with the EDC in the M3 was lovely and compliant I thought.
MarkJS said:
Max Maxasson said:
The downside is that an E92 M3 is not a car for short journeys as you can't lean on the engine until the oil is fully up to temp.
Surely you wouldn’t want to lean on any engine until the oil is up to temperature?Island Hermit said:
MikeM6 said:
Island Hermit said:
Risk of spun bearing(s) in the E9X so would look to the F.
Only if not replaced and many are, and there are reports of spun bearings on the S55 engine too, as well as other reliability issues. Many abused examples of M cars out there sadly.- Cough* crank hub, fuel pump *cough*
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