Anyone gone from Mlite to M4 ?

[J4CKO]

Pondering an M4 later in the year, at about 30 grand, going from a 2016 M135i.

Costs wise is it an order of magnitude more expensive to run ?

I dont do huge mileage, maybe 4000 a year.

[xjay1337]

From what I've researched I can't see how it's any more expensive to run, only in fuel (slightly) and tyres!

[Pistonheader101]

Insurance may be significantly higher depending on your age

[J4CKO]

I will be fifty if I get one later this year, full no claims and not a bad postcode.

Tyres I expect will be dearer, £300 for rears on the M135i, guessing another £100 for the M4.

VED is £300 or £325 I think, for the age I would be looking at.

Fuel, a bit worse being a bit bigger/heavier/more powerful but not like twice as bad like for like.

[Chamon_Lee]

J4CKO said:

I will be fifty if I get one later this year, full no claims and not a bad postcode.

Tyres I expect will be dearer, £300 for rears on the M135i, guessing another £100 for the M4.

VED is £300 or £325 I think, for the age I would be looking at.

Fuel, a bit worse being a bit bigger/heavier/more powerful but not like twice as bad like for like.

Running costs will be on par expect for 2 things: Warranty cost if thats something you care about and depreciation.
Other things give or take will be similar or little more as you have pointed out.

[Pioneer]

J4CKO said:

I will be fifty if I get one later this year

Too old, get a M5 instead

[MellowshipSlinky]

Pioneer said:

J4CKO said:

I will be fifty if I get one later this year

Too old, get a M5 instead

Nah...I’m 51 this year and have an M2C

[12TS]

Thought they we expensive to maintain? I have no direct experience

[Timbergiant]

Ive had mine since day of launch, not had anything silly in terms of running it, other than the 1200 mile oil change its been the same as any other BM I've had.
My 3 series hybrid has had more expensive services.

[Pioneer]

Well the wife had a late 2017 M4CP conv and it ended up being the only car we ever have had to reject. Was a 6 mth old AUC when we bought it with about 2k on the clock. Major issues with the front suspension, BMW never did get to the bottom of it. She replaced it with an i8 in the end which she loves.

[AliMc99]

As a former M4 Warranty and servicing costs will be quite a bit higher- especially brakes and tyres (a single rear tyre MPSS can be £250 each). Fuel consumption on a long motorway run is ok (low mid 30s) but around town or driving hard will be low 20’s.

[cerb4.5lee]

You will pay for the M tax in my experience. While not exactly the same as your example...my E92 M3 was double on cost for insurance/tax/servicing and more expensive on fuel when compared to my E90 330i.

[J4CKO]

AliMc99 said:

As a former M4 Warranty and servicing costs will be quite a bit higher- especially brakes and tyres (a single rear tyre MPSS can be £250 each). Fuel consumption on a long motorway run is ok (low mid 30s) but around town or driving hard will be low 20’s.

Sounds like my M135i in that respect then.

MPSS I saw for £204 for 275/35R19.

Front disks and pads look to be about £500, plus fitting but would diy that, look very similar to the setup on the 350Z.

Warranty might be the killer, would be a bit cagey about running one without, am guessing most owners have a warranty ?

Not heard of many horror stories of them breaking, aside from the crank nut thing, and obviously not buying some sketchy abused heap.

[xjay1337]

J4CKO said:

Warranty might be the killer, would be a bit cagey about running one without, am guessing most owners have a warranty ?

Not heard of many horror stories of them breaking, aside from the crank nut thing, and obviously not buying some sketchy abused heap.

Run a quote for BMW insured warranty online. Just find a random registration plate online for an idea.

[toon10]

I briefly looked at BMW's M division when I was looking to replace my 2016 M135i. The tax, fuel and insurance costs didn't really bother me. I was more concerned about the servicing costs. I decided against an M2/M4 in the end for practicality and comfort reasons. I'm not disappointed with my replacement car at all (540i xDrive) although I've still to scratch the full fat M car itch.

[cerb4.5lee]

J4CKO said:

Pondering an M4 later in the year

I will nudge you with your decision...get the 5.0 Mustang instead!

I've often found the M4 and Mustang quite hard to separate in fairness and they have been two of my favourite cars for a long time.

[xjay1337]

cerb4.5lee said:

I've often found the M4 and Mustang quite hard to separate in fairness and they have been two of my favourite cars for a long time.

Have you driven both?

On paper there is a huge difference in both handling and speed.

[J4CKO]

cerb4.5lee said:

J4CKO said:

Pondering an M4 later in the year

I will nudge you with your decision...get the 5.0 Mustang instead!

I've often found the M4 and Mustang quite hard to separate in fairness and they have been two of my favourite cars for a long time.

My wife is against a Mustang as she wants one, not me have one and her borrow it, that wont work apparently as she would have to move the seat which is too much of a faff.

So, back to Plan A.

She will never get one of course...

[pincher]

MellowshipSlinky said:

Nah...I’m 51 this year and have an M2C

What is your opinion of it? I’m seriously thinking of chucking in the 5-series estate and the Chimaera to get one. Only did 250 miles in the TVR last year, so may as well let someone else enjoy it.

Be interested to hear your views, as we are similar(ish) in age.

[Superlightdaa]

I did exactly what you are thinking of doing, 65 plate M135i LCI to M4 CP in December 18, car was pre-reg June 18. Performance wise the 2 cars are night and day different, the M135i was quick but the M4 is something else. The diff in the M4 is also another step change, power oversteer is so easy (private roads obviously). Costs are very similar, mpg is about the same on my short commute low 20's, saw mid 30's on both on a longer run without giving them much stick. I can't really comment on service costs as I've only had the running in service to pay for which was about £280, next service due in May 20. I've had 2 rear tyres both replaced due to punctures (the same tyre twice) at £302 each, bit eye watering. No oil used, insurance costs are about the same as my M135i, about £900 for the M4 and a F80 330i on an Admiral multi car policy for me and my wife.