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I'm not normally a fan of gloss black wheels but I love them against my Zandvoort blue paint. They also perfectly match the black plastic body bits.
That is truly stunning….my exact spec which arrives in early September!
Rare colour that Blue, only seen black and the red on the road so far.
I'm not normally a fan of gloss black wheels but I love them against my Zandvoort blue paint. They also perfectly match the black plastic body bits.
That is truly stunning….my exact spec which arrives in early September!
Rare colour that Blue, only seen black and the red on the road so far.
Hothatch1977]FTWend said:
I'm not normally a fan of gloss black wheels but I love them against my Zandvoort blue paint. They also perfectly match the black plastic body bits.
That is truly stunning….my exact spec which arrives in early September!
Rare colour that Blue, only seen black and the red on the road so far.
You will enjoy it. Zandvoort is exclusive to the M2.That is truly stunning….my exact spec which arrives in early September!
Rare colour that Blue, only seen black and the red on the road so far.
Has anyone who has ordered an M2 from a particular contract hire broker in April (on a competitive deal, best rate I have seen) had a call in the last week to be advised that there was an error in the dealer contribution (something about a £4k contribution that dealer got wrong) and that they now want a further £18pm?
Not the end of the world as still a good deal, but I am just trying to decide if it is a scam or not, having also ordered an M3 Touring from same broker....
Not the end of the world as still a good deal, but I am just trying to decide if it is a scam or not, having also ordered an M3 Touring from same broker....
DanX5 said:
Has anyone who has ordered an M2 from a particular contract hire broker in April (on a competitive deal, best rate I have seen) had a call in the last week to be advised that there was an error in the dealer contribution (something about a £4k contribution that dealer got wrong) and that they now want a further £18pm?
Not the end of the world as still a good deal, but I am just trying to decide if it is a scam or not, having also ordered an M3 Touring from same broker....
Those numbers don’t seem to add up! They want £18 pm over x months say 36. That is about £650? But dealer claiming they are £4k out of pocket ? Do you have a signed contract ? When is car due for delivery? As last cars just been built before factory changes to updated spec with new colours. Price rise with it and reduction in standard spec. Does your car actually exist ? Not the end of the world as still a good deal, but I am just trying to decide if it is a scam or not, having also ordered an M3 Touring from same broker....
DanX5 said:
Has anyone who has ordered an M2 from a particular contract hire broker in April (on a competitive deal, best rate I have seen) had a call in the last week to be advised that there was an error in the dealer contribution (something about a £4k contribution that dealer got wrong) and that they now want a further £18pm?
Not the end of the world as still a good deal, but I am just trying to decide if it is a scam or not, having also ordered an M3 Touring from same broker....
Was this the offer that was £488.06, 9/23 at 10k p.a. + £600 + admin/delivery fee? Not the end of the world as still a good deal, but I am just trying to decide if it is a scam or not, having also ordered an M3 Touring from same broker....
I don't think the price change at that stage is acceptable. That was April, it's now June. Agree with '86' that the numbers don't stack up.
Ultimately it comes down to what you've signed to date. And how much you want the M2.
Yes that was the offer.
The extra £18pm being asked for doesn’t add up to £4k as there is an agreement for contributions to the ‘deal’ from the broker, the dealer and BMW GB (at least that’s what I’ve been told) and the £18pm is what they are asking for from the customer.
No one else got one on order on same deal?
The extra £18pm being asked for doesn’t add up to £4k as there is an agreement for contributions to the ‘deal’ from the broker, the dealer and BMW GB (at least that’s what I’ve been told) and the £18pm is what they are asking for from the customer.
No one else got one on order on same deal?
DanX5 said:
Yes that was the offer.
The extra £18pm being asked for doesn’t add up to £4k as there is an agreement for contributions to the ‘deal’ from the broker, the dealer and BMW GB (at least that’s what I’ve been told) and the £18pm is what they are asking for from the customer.
No one else got one on order on same deal?
There is no BMW UK financial support on these cars everything has to come from the dealer margin. I can’t see the broker giving up much if anything. It sounds a lot of waffle. Ask them when was the car built as I say the last cars are being built now. New production starts shortly with different spec plus 20 bhp ( although these cars knock out more than 480 bhp already ) and higher pricing you will see a BMW announcement shortly The extra £18pm being asked for doesn’t add up to £4k as there is an agreement for contributions to the ‘deal’ from the broker, the dealer and BMW GB (at least that’s what I’ve been told) and the £18pm is what they are asking for from the customer.
No one else got one on order on same deal?
Edited by 86 on Monday 10th June 20:44
86 said:
There is no BMW UK financial support on these cars everything has to come from the dealer margin. I can’t see the broker giving up much if anything. It sounds a lot of waffle. Ask them when was the car built as I say the last cars are being built now. New production starts shortly with different spec plus 20 bhp ( although these cars knock out more than 480 bhp already ) and higher pricing you will see a BMW announcement shortly
There must be bmw support as dealers offering 10-12% off new cars.greggy50 said:
Depends what you use it for, mine is a daily so I needed an all rounder.
For a weekend car I would keep the 997, if its used regularly the M2 is a far better car however imo.
The ride quality given the peformance is fantastic, I also managed decent MPG on a run earlier off boost.
Also its without saying performance wise its 997 turbo quick or thereabouts. In reality they put out very close to 500hp not the claimed 450 from what I gather.
For a weekend car I would keep the 997, if its used regularly the M2 is a far better car however imo.
The ride quality given the peformance is fantastic, I also managed decent MPG on a run earlier off boost.
Also its without saying performance wise its 997 turbo quick or thereabouts. In reality they put out very close to 500hp not the claimed 450 from what I gather.
Hedgeman said:
Depends on your vintage and type of 911. I have owned two 996's, a C2 from new 20 years ago, and a C4 for a couple of years in 2015. The M2 wins hands down in my view in every measure. A classic Carrera on the other hand, I'm not sure I'd be making the swap (I'd try to get an M2 as well).
Thanks for the responses guys! Mine is a 997 C4S with a few miles on it now, weekend and road trip car, 4k miles yr split 50% between those two uses. No track.
Part of reason for thinking about M2s (new or old) is under the "family fun car" aspect as we can use it on days out and Euro trips. Second aspect is as a newer car more likely to be less hassle to maintain for a few years.
DanX5 said:
Has anyone who has ordered an M2 from a particular contract hire broker in April (on a competitive deal, best rate I have seen) had a call in the last week to be advised that there was an error in the dealer contribution (something about a £4k contribution that dealer got wrong) and that they now want a further £18pm?
Not the end of the world as still a good deal, but I am just trying to decide if it is a scam or not, having also ordered an M3 Touring from same broker....
Just to update on this, I’ve been informed that the dealer has agreed to honour both original deals as quoted (both via BMW Financial Services), despite an apparent pricing cock up - although got the impression that it was more so because I have both an M2 and M3 Touring on order at same time that helped. Be interested if anyone else has same issues on this M2 deal though…Not the end of the world as still a good deal, but I am just trying to decide if it is a scam or not, having also ordered an M3 Touring from same broker....
Andy OH said:
Quick question for you guys.
We have a brand new G87 M2 which we picked up on Saturday 27 April. The car was driven home 5 miles and then left in the garage for two weeks whilst we were on holiday. The car then went to be ceramic coated which the guy had for two weeks and kept the car on a CTEK battery charger over night which indicated that the battery was fully charged.
The car has covered 69 miles and whilst the car was being coated the guy sent me a picture showing a warning on the digital display saying to 'Replace Battery' even though the car starts and drives fine and according to my CTEK charger the battery is fully charged.
My wife called the supplying BMW dealer today and was told that the guy who looks after new cars was not in the dealership as it was his day off and that he will call back tomorrow, she was also told that the battery is potentially not covered under warranty. This car has covered 69 miles from new. I will kick up a fuss as I will not pay for a new battery on a brand new car if they are adamant that it's not covered under warranty.
Anyone else had this issue??
Just to update my post of 29 May 2024.We have a brand new G87 M2 which we picked up on Saturday 27 April. The car was driven home 5 miles and then left in the garage for two weeks whilst we were on holiday. The car then went to be ceramic coated which the guy had for two weeks and kept the car on a CTEK battery charger over night which indicated that the battery was fully charged.
The car has covered 69 miles and whilst the car was being coated the guy sent me a picture showing a warning on the digital display saying to 'Replace Battery' even though the car starts and drives fine and according to my CTEK charger the battery is fully charged.
My wife called the supplying BMW dealer today and was told that the guy who looks after new cars was not in the dealership as it was his day off and that he will call back tomorrow, she was also told that the battery is potentially not covered under warranty. This car has covered 69 miles from new. I will kick up a fuss as I will not pay for a new battery on a brand new car if they are adamant that it's not covered under warranty.
Anyone else had this issue??
We had a new battery fitted yesterday at no cost to us. They didn't really comment on the condition of the original battery and to be honest we were just happy to have a new battery at no cost to us and we were happy with the outcome. To be fair to the BMW dealer they were very good and there were no quibbles about a replacement battery.
Andy OH said:
Just to update my post of 29 May 2024.
We had a new battery fitted yesterday at no cost to us. They didn't really comment on the condition of the original battery and to be honest we were just happy to have a new battery at no cost to us and we were happy with the outcome. To be fair to the BMW dealer they were very good and there were no quibbles about a replacement battery.
Nice to not to have had to have a bunfight with them over it.We had a new battery fitted yesterday at no cost to us. They didn't really comment on the condition of the original battery and to be honest we were just happy to have a new battery at no cost to us and we were happy with the outcome. To be fair to the BMW dealer they were very good and there were no quibbles about a replacement battery.
Wife had a prodrive modded Subaru at one point and the battery went on it a year in. They were HUGELY condescending with her about it - "now are you sure you just didnt forget to turn the interior light off?". Went on for 2 or 3 visits where they said there was nothing wrong with the battery and it was clearly something my wife was doing "wrong". Eventually i told them to pull the battery out and test it on the bench (which they should have done in the first place), and at that point it showed up with a fault. New battery fitted, humble apologies from the Dealer Principal, but it did put her off the car and she got rid of it soon afterwards.
Good you had a clean, easy, positive experience
Andy OH said:
Andy OH said:
Quick question for you guys.
We have a brand new G87 M2 which we picked up on Saturday 27 April. The car was driven home 5 miles and then left in the garage for two weeks whilst we were on holiday. The car then went to be ceramic coated which the guy had for two weeks and kept the car on a CTEK battery charger over night which indicated that the battery was fully charged.
The car has covered 69 miles and whilst the car was being coated the guy sent me a picture showing a warning on the digital display saying to 'Replace Battery' even though the car starts and drives fine and according to my CTEK charger the battery is fully charged.
My wife called the supplying BMW dealer today and was told that the guy who looks after new cars was not in the dealership as it was his day off and that he will call back tomorrow, she was also told that the battery is potentially not covered under warranty. This car has covered 69 miles from new. I will kick up a fuss as I will not pay for a new battery on a brand new car if they are adamant that it's not covered under warranty.
Anyone else had this issue??
Just to update my post of 29 May 2024.We have a brand new G87 M2 which we picked up on Saturday 27 April. The car was driven home 5 miles and then left in the garage for two weeks whilst we were on holiday. The car then went to be ceramic coated which the guy had for two weeks and kept the car on a CTEK battery charger over night which indicated that the battery was fully charged.
The car has covered 69 miles and whilst the car was being coated the guy sent me a picture showing a warning on the digital display saying to 'Replace Battery' even though the car starts and drives fine and according to my CTEK charger the battery is fully charged.
My wife called the supplying BMW dealer today and was told that the guy who looks after new cars was not in the dealership as it was his day off and that he will call back tomorrow, she was also told that the battery is potentially not covered under warranty. This car has covered 69 miles from new. I will kick up a fuss as I will not pay for a new battery on a brand new car if they are adamant that it's not covered under warranty.
Anyone else had this issue??
We had a new battery fitted yesterday at no cost to us. They didn't really comment on the condition of the original battery and to be honest we were just happy to have a new battery at no cost to us and we were happy with the outcome. To be fair to the BMW dealer they were very good and there were no quibbles about a replacement battery.
Just a quick question to those running an M2 as a daily car, is it quiet enough for long distance or does it drone a bit ? I don't mind a firm ride but the noise would bother me on trips abroad.
I'm looking at the early M2s, or maybe an early Competition if they are significantly better to drive ? Is there a noticeable difference ? Chris Harris seems very happy with the early car. I'll be buying a manual too.
I'm looking at the early M2s, or maybe an early Competition if they are significantly better to drive ? Is there a noticeable difference ? Chris Harris seems very happy with the early car. I'll be buying a manual too.
SteveKTMer said:
Just a quick question to those running an M2 as a daily car, is it quiet enough for long distance or does it drone a bit ? I don't mind a firm ride but the noise would bother me on trips abroad.
I'm looking at the early M2s, or maybe an early Competition if they are significantly better to drive ? Is there a noticeable difference ? Chris Harris seems very happy with the early car. I'll be buying a manual too.
IMHO, more sense of occasion with the original version compared to the Comp as the engine is more characterful and the exhaust sounds amazing.I'm looking at the early M2s, or maybe an early Competition if they are significantly better to drive ? Is there a noticeable difference ? Chris Harris seems very happy with the early car. I'll be buying a manual too.
360BHP is plenty quick for a road car in my opinion and it'll map to slightly over 400BHP anyway.
Comp if you're going to chase big BHP or track it.
I daily my 2018 car, but its not driven an awful lot as i WFH. Rides better than my previous M140i, and is a bit of a big pussycat under normal circumstances, but really comes to life when you start to push it on.
Our A45 would have been quicker point to point, but the M2 puts a smile on my face even just taking it to the shops for a pint of milk, whereas the A45 was quite clinical in its delivery and felt quite manic.
SteveKTMer said:
Just a quick question to those running an M2 as a daily car, is it quiet enough for long distance or does it drone a bit ? I don't mind a firm ride but the noise would bother me on trips abroad.
I'm looking at the early M2s, or maybe an early Competition if they are significantly better to drive ? Is there a noticeable difference ? Chris Harris seems very happy with the early car. I'll be buying a manual too.
Manual has higher gearing so a DCT would probably make the better daily. I'm looking at the early M2s, or maybe an early Competition if they are significantly better to drive ? Is there a noticeable difference ? Chris Harris seems very happy with the early car. I'll be buying a manual too.
SteveKTMer said:
Just a quick question to those running an M2 as a daily car, is it quiet enough for long distance or does it drone a bit ? I don't mind a firm ride but the noise would bother me on trips abroad.
I'm looking at the early M2s, or maybe an early Competition if they are significantly better to drive ? Is there a noticeable difference ? Chris Harris seems very happy with the early car. I'll be buying a manual too.
I had an early manual M2, It was quiet enough on a run but I found it a really noticeable drone around 70-80 mph. While not particularly loud it used to really annoy me, and was one of the reasons I got rid.I'm looking at the early M2s, or maybe an early Competition if they are significantly better to drive ? Is there a noticeable difference ? Chris Harris seems very happy with the early car. I'll be buying a manual too.
Top pup said:
SteveKTMer said:
Just a quick question to those running an M2 as a daily car, is it quiet enough for long distance or does it drone a bit ? I don't mind a firm ride but the noise would bother me on trips abroad.
I'm looking at the early M2s, or maybe an early Competition if they are significantly better to drive ? Is there a noticeable difference ? Chris Harris seems very happy with the early car. I'll be buying a manual too.
I had an early manual M2, It was quiet enough on a run but I found it a really noticeable drone around 70-80 mph. While not particularly loud it used to really annoy me, and was one of the reasons I got rid.I'm looking at the early M2s, or maybe an early Competition if they are significantly better to drive ? Is there a noticeable difference ? Chris Harris seems very happy with the early car. I'll be buying a manual too.
BMWM2Black said:
SteveKTMer said:
Just a quick question to those running an M2 as a daily car, is it quiet enough for long distance or does it drone a bit ? I don't mind a firm ride but the noise would bother me on trips abroad.
I'm looking at the early M2s, or maybe an early Competition if they are significantly better to drive ? Is there a noticeable difference ? Chris Harris seems very happy with the early car. I'll be buying a manual too.
Manual has higher gearing so a DCT would probably make the better daily. I'm looking at the early M2s, or maybe an early Competition if they are significantly better to drive ? Is there a noticeable difference ? Chris Harris seems very happy with the early car. I'll be buying a manual too.
Never noticed any droning in my DCT variant. Its a great box. Very relaxed when in Comfort mode but ultra fast when in Sport mode and using the paddles.
Edited by Deep Thought on Wednesday 12th June 19:00
SteveKTMer said:
Just a quick question to those running an M2 as a daily car, is it quiet enough for long distance or does it drone a bit ? I don't mind a firm ride but the noise would bother me on trips abroad.
I'm looking at the early M2s, or maybe an early Competition if they are significantly better to drive ? Is there a noticeable difference ? Chris Harris seems very happy with the early car. I'll be buying a manual too.
It is a compromise. My 2018 M2 is a daily and I use it for absolutely everything. It is very noisy/boomy, not that comfortable and terrible on fuel. Even with the H&K audio turned up pretty loud I can still hear wind noise and engine noise. I may look into getting the fake engine noises coded out as I've heard that can make quite a difference to the speaker system and interior noise.I'm looking at the early M2s, or maybe an early Competition if they are significantly better to drive ? Is there a noticeable difference ? Chris Harris seems very happy with the early car. I'll be buying a manual too.
However, I bought it because I'm willing to put up with all of that for the driving experience; which I think makes up for it. Nothing else at the price point really came close and I'm not regretting my purchase at all.
I'd be ok with doing a long journey in it, even driving through Europe. Just wish I could have Android auto on the screen, but I've got a mount for my phone which is a reasonable alternative.
As above, DCT is preferable due to the 7th gear which is approx 2k revs at 70mph, vs 3k ish in 6th for the manual
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