M3 Touring latest

[cowboyengineer]

I think the ballon would be 45k and 20k in would put you at £1000 a month I reckon

[ledz]

cosmokmike said:

liner33 said:

Gfv perhaps but in three years these are still likely to be 50 plus I reckon

Yes, that what I thought looking at M4 & M5 values. And I guess after three years they'll find their value and level out.

So quick "bag of the fag packet maths"... About 45-50K to be financed on whatever deal you have. 15-20K in leaves you with your monthly payments of £600 - £900 per month depending on how much you put in.

7.9% apr. But will probably go up next few months

[ST66N]

ledz said:

cosmokmike said:

cowboyengineer said:

Tanzanite blues, ultimate pack and orange interior. Black brake callipers.

£96000 ouch

That's pretty much the spec I built yesterday.

So, can we speculate a bit

What's that going to lose over three years and what are the deals going to look like based on likely future value?

Be worth 40 to 45k in 3 in years I think.

I don't think that is realistic at all.

They're more likely to depreciate in line with the RS wagons than the M coupes.

[anonymous-user]

cowboyengineer said:

I think the ballon would be 45k and 20k in would put you at £1000 a month I reckon

Sounds about right...

Bit of a mad morning, but this is how my initial order is looking.

BMW Visualiser thing

They couldn't see the option for the 50 year badges on the system yet.

Unsure of...

I think black roof will work best with a light coloured car so I've gone for body-coloured. Shame there's no panoramic roof option.

Colour... I think its between this blue (Tanzanite) or Daytona Violet/Thunder Night. I've always liked dark blue on estates like the RS4/6, quite under-stated and age well regardless of what's "in fashion" with car designers.

[cowboyengineer]

couldn't see thunder night on there. the 50 year badges are on there though. you get nice puddle lights with them.

[skeeterm5]

Just reading back over this thread - has the world gone mad? People are really going to spend £90k or more on an M3 estate??

[ledz]

skeeterm5 said:

Just reading back over this thread - has the world gone mad? People are really going to spend £90k or more on an M3 estate??

Maybe. People are spending £75k on a fast Audi a3 (rs3)

[anonymous-user]

That seems to be the going rate for a fast estate like this or something similar from Audi these days. What are the other options for this sort of thing now in terms of similar power, tech, (switchable) AWD and ideally a warranty?

I think I'm settled on Tanzanite Blue. Some of the other colours are just a bit lary for me for what could be a keeper. I am thinking of changing the alloys to non-black - not sure if the bi-colour ones are available as I think its just a bit too dark with the black ones and a dark colour.

I've got red callipers as its the Fiona Red leather, but might switch those to blue too.

That Miami Blue though... As someone who had a couple of Estoril Blue M's back in the day, its kind of tempting...

[MrBarry123]

skeeterm5 said:

Just reading back over this thread - has the world gone mad? People are really going to spend £90k or more on an M3 estate??

I’ve had a look back through and feel the same. BMW have fully sent the cashing-in-on-the-hype train.

I really like the M3 Touring but if the true figures are anything like those being suggested - £20k down, £1k per month, with a £45k balloon - that is crazy. And regardless of whether the price is equivalent to similar cars, it’s still a tremendous amount of money for a mid-sized estate car.

[cowboyengineer]

I have seen sense and pulled my order.

A couple of things, I’m in a fortunate position to own multiple cars. As an only car, there’s nothing I would look at over the m3 touring. Ticks every box.

However. If I want to take multiple people out, they don’t want me driving fast and cornering quickly, so no need for the m3 part. Just the touring.

And if I’m on my own and want to drive fast then I can take a different car which is better then an m3 touring.

I think if it was 80k then I might have considered it. But at 96k that’s 991.1 gt3 money. So I’m going to get one of those instead. And yes I totally understand new car/old car values etc. but the gt3 will depreciate less, and the m3 touring still looks to fancy for me to run it to work in so I’d always have to use a different car for that. (T6.1 kombi)

[liner33]

I saw an ad for a 2018 F82 with 30k on it, the list price for this particular car with options in 2018 was £77k that's equivalent to almost £90k today , of course back then discounts were rife so I'm not convinced that cars like this are that much more money as there is no doubt you are getting a lot more for your money with a £100k G81 than a £77k F82 back in 2018

[MrBarry123]

liner33 said:

I saw an ad for a 2018 F82 with 30k on it, the list price for this particular car with options in 2018 was £77k that's equivalent to almost £90k today , of course back then discounts were rife so I'm not convinced that cars like this are that much more money as there is no doubt you are getting a lot more for your money with a £100k G81 than a £77k F82 back in 2018

Nobody paid £77k for a M4 in 2018.

[liner33]

MrBarry123 said:

Nobody paid £77k for a M4 in 2018.

Didn’t say they did but the list price was £77k the biggest different isn’t in the list price but the fact that due to demand BMW won’t discount like they used to

[Billy_Whizzzz]

Holy Sh*t these are looking expensive. My X3M Comp is 299 a month with a 37k balloon. Think I’ll just buy it at the end and run it into the ground rather than swapping to the M3. Just seen in any case there’s no pan roof for the M3T so even at £299 a month I wouldn’t want one.

[steakandchips]

Billy_Whizzzz said:

Holy Sh*t these are looking expensive. My X3M Comp is 299 a month with a 37k balloon. Think I’ll just buy it at the end and run it into the ground rather than swapping to the M3. Just seen in any case there’s no pan roof for the M3T so even at £299 a month I wouldn’t want one.

It’s all about the pan roof.

[steakandchips]

liner33 said:

MrBarry123 said:

Nobody paid £77k for a M4 in 2018.

Didn’t say they did but the list price was £77k the biggest different isn’t in the list price but the fact that due to demand BMW won’t discount like they used to

While there is demand BMW won’t discount. When demand drops off, which it will, the usual M discounts will become available. These aren’t £90k or £100k cars and, if you wait for eighteen months, you’ll get one for £65k or perhaps less. Assuming the state of the UK economy worsens then the point where discounts and lower APRs on PCPs become available may be even sooner.

[liner33]

steakandchips said:

While there is demand BMW won’t discount. When demand drops off, which it will, the usual M discounts will become available. These aren’t £90k or £100k cars and, if you wait for eighteen months, you’ll get one for £65k or perhaps less. Assuming the state of the UK economy worsens then the point where discounts and lower APRs on PCPs become available may be even sooner.

You think we will get lower aprs with rates like they are now ? I wouldn’t hold your breath for a £65k that’s just not realistic

[ledz]

I reckon till the end of 2023. The m3 touring will be in very short
Supply and will command list price or even overs for the next 12 months ar least

[Chipper]

I reckon it’s a hell of a risk purchasing a car with a lot of finance with our economic outlook unless you are proper wealthy. Cheap easy money has now gone and I personally don’t think people really realise the impact that is coming.

Once the first orders have been satisfied and BMW are searching for someone else to buy the prices will drop significantly.

Just give it till late Feb or early March next year and then see how things are before committing to more debt.

[JMBMWM5]

Chipper said:

I reckon it’s a hell of a risk purchasing a car with a lot of finance with our economic outlook unless you are proper wealthy. Cheap easy money has now gone and I personally don’t think people really realise the impact that is coming.

Once the first orders have been satisfied and BMW are searching for someone else to buy the prices will drop significantly.

Just give it till late Feb or early March next year and then see how things are before committing to more debt.

Agree things are going to be tight and some not all PCP buyers are going to be SKINT and want out.
Not a time for buying as said unless the moneys there in your pot.