SC Clearance - Transferable?

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Rich_AR

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1,969 posts

211 months

Wednesday 17th June 2009
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I currently have BS and SC Government Security Clearance through the company I work for. If I was to leave my current job, do I lose the clearance? If so, can I easily re-apply for it or do I require a sponsor? I.e new company?


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zippy3x

1,336 posts

274 months

Wednesday 17th June 2009
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You are security cleared through your employer/client.

If you leave your clearance will be valid for a period of time (6 months i believe - but don't quote me on that)

If during that 6 months you start with a new company (must be a company that can apply for SC) then the clearance can be transfered easily. If it has lapsed then they must go through the process again.

You cannot apply for clearance yourself - and only certain companies (known as list X companies) can apply to have you cleared.

Edited by zippy3x on Wednesday 17th June 21:18

_Deano

7,408 posts

260 months

Sunday 21st June 2009
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just out of interest, how would one obtain SC clearance?
I've seen a lot of IT roles on the market that request this, but i don't have it; so i assume that i can't apply for the role?

badgers_back

513 posts

193 months

Monday 22nd June 2009
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_Deano said:
just out of interest, how would one obtain SC clearance?
I've seen a lot of IT roles on the market that request this, but i don't have it; so i assume that i can't apply for the role?
depends on the company and the roll....

However it takes ages 3-4 months, so its not like you can join a company and then start on the sc work. Your best bet it to join a company that has some sc and some non sc work. Then tranfer to a project that requires SC they will they pay to get it

cappsy

1,725 posts

187 months

Monday 22nd June 2009
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your SC is your SC and not the companies! mine for instance is DV clearance and will stay with me whether i leave the company or not,im permanent staff and even contractors on weekly contracts get put though sc and after they finished the job they go ou to work for another company looking for sc.

nellyleelephant

2,708 posts

241 months

Monday 22nd June 2009
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Your DV clearance is not yours. You would have had a sponsor, if you move to a new job, that position has to have a spnsor too to keep the clearance.

I think it lasts only a few months if you leave a job and don't go to a new one that requires the clearance.

cappsy

1,725 posts

187 months

Monday 22nd June 2009
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correct i mean its transferable,and u dont have to re apply,it took 6 months for me to get dv cleared and they wudnt revoke my cis pass if i left either

ringram

14,700 posts

255 months

Monday 22nd June 2009
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Well at least some people are kept busy security clearing everyone!

_Deano

7,408 posts

260 months

Monday 22nd June 2009
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Can you still get SC clearance if you have a criminal record or if you have bad debt?
I assume that it's just a certificate to say that your not planning on making WMDs and that if you get a govt. job which required SC, you wouldn't plan on going on Guy Fawkes on their ass and make a big hole in the Thames facing side of Parliament.

cappsy

1,725 posts

187 months

Tuesday 23rd June 2009
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i cant get dv clearedif your bankrupt,i think ull be ok with sc

badgers_back

513 posts

193 months

Tuesday 23rd June 2009
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_Deano said:
Can you still get SC clearance if you have a criminal record or if you have bad debt?
I assume that it's just a certificate to say that your not planning on making WMDs and that if you get a govt. job which required SC, you wouldn't plan on going on Guy Fawkes on their ass and make a big hole in the Thames facing side of Parliament.
depends on the amount of debt they are keen on money worries as its seen as a method of being able to motivale/blackmail you in to selling stuff.

criminal (within reason) who cares its public domain knowedge..

spikeyhead

17,982 posts

204 months

Tuesday 23rd June 2009
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badgers_back said:
_Deano said:
Can you still get SC clearance if you have a criminal record or if you have bad debt?
I assume that it's just a certificate to say that your not planning on making WMDs and that if you get a govt. job which required SC, you wouldn't plan on going on Guy Fawkes on their ass and make a big hole in the Thames facing side of Parliament.
depends on the amount of debt they are keen on money worries as its seen as a method of being able to motivale/blackmail you in to selling stuff.

criminal (within reason) who cares its public domain knowedge..
I used to work with a bloke who was SC cleared despite having once ABH'd a copper.

ewenm

28,506 posts

252 months

Wednesday 24th June 2009
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A lot of the clearance problems can arise when they feel there is some aspect of your life that you can be blackmailed over or give someone some leverage over you. Generally most things are fine as long as you're open/public about them and not trying to hide them.

The interviews for DV and higher clearances can be very blunt with some very personal questions asked.

Mr POD

5,153 posts

199 months

Wednesday 24th June 2009
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youngceng

4 posts

184 months

Tuesday 21st July 2009
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I have a question about SC clearance.

I've had clearance for 10 years or so, but accidently fell foul of the law, my company dismissed me and my clearance lapsed. got another job, they know all the details and happy for me to start. Applied for SC and going through the process, obviously i've told them everything. Got an interview with the DVA.

i know you want to know about my offence, so i shall tell you. Like some guys i liked looking at adult porn, i thought 16+ was ok, its actually 18+, i had 0.5% of my images classed as under 18, some were said to be under 16 too, but my lawyer said that it was subjective. The police confirmed i never went looking for these images, nor did i frequent those sort of websites either. I would have got a caution, but the police made a a mistake, initially charging me for a more serious offence, which turned out to be wrong (i didn't argue because i never knew what they were referring too). The vast majority of the images were of the lowest level (about 75%), the rest were more serious, but because i thought they were ok, i never worried about having them.

i got a 2 month suspended sentance for one year, a sexual offences prevention order, stops me look at porn on the internet (thats fine, once bitten and all that) i am also on the SOR for 5 years and have to attend a group.

My probation officer has said i am the least worst case she has come across and thinks my punishment is dispportionally heavy compared to my offense (in my opinion of being ignorant, although i don't and won't use it as an excuse, but hopefull an explanation.

i've only ever had a job requiring clearance adn will struggle to get another job outside that relm. given the fact i have been up front and told everyone that needs to know incluidng family, friends, collegues, future employer (hopefully) and DVA, what is the likely hood of having my application for SC rejected? any views?

ewenm

28,506 posts

252 months

Tuesday 21st July 2009
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Should be irrelevant to your clearance as you're open about it and (presumably) the court case details are in the public domain. No possibility of you being blackmailed over it.

youngceng

4 posts

184 months

Tuesday 21st July 2009
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i am open about it!! over 20 friends, family and collegues are aware of my situation and all have been very supportive!

yes all the details will be in the public domain by virtue of the case details

i do hope you're right

ewenm

28,506 posts

252 months

Tuesday 21st July 2009
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I'd expect questions about it but it doesn't sound like it should be an issue.

youngceng

4 posts

184 months

Tuesday 21st July 2009
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some one has said that the fact i am on the sex offenders register may cause an issue?

any views on that?

ewenm

28,506 posts

252 months

Tuesday 21st July 2009
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No idea I'm afraid. Someone else may know more...