Asking for a pay rise?

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Hi all

Looking for a bit of advice here.

I have been with my current employers for almost 2 years now. No pay-rise or bonus in that time.

I enjoy the job and the people. They obviously value me. I've been well treated - no complaints at all.

We're now planning to move office. The commute will be around £900 a year more.

I've delayed asking for any rise due to the current climate and the fact that the company is definitely not making a profit. We've had some redundancies but also have new employees.

Do I keep quite, or ask for a rise on the following grounds:

1. value to company. Explain why I feel I deserve a rise.
2. salaries for similar jobs are more, with examples.
3. 2 years without rise
4. extra commute expenses

I am thinking of suggesting 2.5%.

I'm finding it difficult to judge if asking could prejudice them against me in the future.

[cymtriks]

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Hi all

Looking for a bit of advice here.

I have been with my current employers for almost 2 years now. No pay-rise or bonus in that time.

I enjoy the job and the people. They obviously value me. I've been well treated - no complaints at all.

We're now planning to move office. The commute will be around £900 a year more.

I've delayed asking for any rise due to the current climate and the fact that the company is definitely not making a profit. We've had some redundancies but also have new employees.

Do I keep quite, or ask for a rise on the following grounds:

1. value to company. Explain why I feel I deserve a rise.
2. salaries for similar jobs are more, with examples.
3. 2 years without rise
4. extra commute expenses

I am thinking of suggesting 2.5%.

I'm finding it difficult to judge if asking could prejudice them against me in the future.

Ask for a rise but don't say it's to cover your transport expenses!

Always ask for money and always state that you are willing to learn and do stuff to get it.

You can't lose and if the they refuse then you know that you have, for now at least, reached your limit at this employer.

[disco!!!!]

i tried this after finishing an apprenticship as a plant mechanic (ive been working for an offshore company for the last 2 years which have included the last 2 years of my apprenticship)

the boss laughed me off the phone

im going to try and have the last laugh when i tell them im quitting after they have spent a fortune training me but have never sent me on a proper job (they havent made any money back on me)


EDIT: gwad damn spelling mistakes

Edited by disco!!!! on Sunday 17th May 01:03

[ChrisOB1]

humm company not making money, im guessing they are moving offices to cut costs? interesting dilema they put themselves in, making redundancies and also hiring? I guess laying off non essential staff and hiring business critical roles. My opinion would be, be happy to be employed in the current market let them know its going to cost you extra without asking for it and when things pick up then ask for the raise. It may also be worth looking at you employment contracvt to see if there is anything about cost of living increases. In many companies this is a standard yearly pay rise and they would have to announce a company wide pay freeze if they are not being given. All IMHO. good luck & applogies for spelling hadf a feww beers

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ChrisOB1 said:

humm company not making money, im guessing they are moving offices to cut costs? interesting dilema they put themselves in, making redundancies and also hiring? I guess laying off non essential staff and hiring business critical roles. My opinion would be, be happy to be employed in the current market let them know its going to cost you extra without asking for it and when things pick up then ask for the raise. It may also be worth looking at you employment contracvt to see if there is anything about cost of living increases. In many companies this is a standard yearly pay rise and they would have to announce a company wide pay freeze if they are not being given. All IMHO. good luck & applogies for spelling hadf a feww beers

All advice gratefully received

The company has never made money since conception - but we are making far less of a loss!

Interestingly enough, I've never worked in a company that offers any sort of annual pay-rise. I've always had to ask - and its NEVER the right time.

We're moving office to somewhere which is probably more expensive, not less as we re-align our business strategy.

I think you're right with the redundancies. Less critical roles have gone, but employment has taken place where they now see the business being focussed.

Definitely not going to do anything until we actually move.

[sparkyb999]

I say talk with your boss, I always have my office door open for all my employees, and even if i can not give pay rises due to crap months, i will always try and come to an agreement with the person.

I took on a new guy around 4 months ago, who has asked me for a pay rise a couple of weeks ago. He started on a low wage to see if we could fill his job role, and even though my company is going through tough times, i have agreed to give him a stepped pay rise over a time period so we will both benefit.

OK, giving pay rises to a pain in the bum, would love not to, but if my staff are happy?. they will work harder, enjoy where they work, and come in looking forward to the day.