Joining GMB. Any downsides?
Discussion
The GMB has negotiated a 13% pay rise for members, with a six month period of backdated pay. This offer is open to all members or those who join before December 1st.
I’d like to hear from any members who have experienced any backlash from employers and how much the monthly dues are?
Are there any other benefits from joining and more importantly, are there any disadvantages?
I’ve always had a reluctance to join a Union, having very clear memories of the carnage that was caused by various Unions during the early 1980’s, but this pay offer is a bit too good to dismiss.
Thanks in advance
I’d like to hear from any members who have experienced any backlash from employers and how much the monthly dues are?
Are there any other benefits from joining and more importantly, are there any disadvantages?
I’ve always had a reluctance to join a Union, having very clear memories of the carnage that was caused by various Unions during the early 1980’s, but this pay offer is a bit too good to dismiss.
Thanks in advance
"GMB offers a range of benefits and services to members, including legal support, learning opportunities, and access to exclusive discounts and deals."
Cost of membership is £14.57 a month for a full time worker.
Apparently there are over 500,000 members so I guess they've got at least £60million a year to play with.
Cost of membership is £14.57 a month for a full time worker.
Apparently there are over 500,000 members so I guess they've got at least £60million a year to play with.
How does this work if you're not in a fully unionised workplace?
I've never (in a career in software sales) been in a union, and nor, to the best of my knowledge, have any of my colleagues, so what would happen if one of us did suddenly decide to join the GMB?
Would I suddenly be able to bring a Union rep in to negotiate an annual pay review on my behalf? Would I be able to strike if I didn't like the outcome without risk of being sacked?
Obviously I'm aware of the fights people have fought over the years to introduce unions into various industries and enterprises, but I'd never thought of people joining up individually.
I've never (in a career in software sales) been in a union, and nor, to the best of my knowledge, have any of my colleagues, so what would happen if one of us did suddenly decide to join the GMB?
Would I suddenly be able to bring a Union rep in to negotiate an annual pay review on my behalf? Would I be able to strike if I didn't like the outcome without risk of being sacked?
Obviously I'm aware of the fights people have fought over the years to introduce unions into various industries and enterprises, but I'd never thought of people joining up individually.
. number2 said:
Aren't you self employed in the delivery business 105.4?
I wouldn't have thought a union would be of any direct benefit to you.
I got to be brief. I’m against the clock.I wouldn't have thought a union would be of any direct benefit to you.
Yes, but the Union has negotiated a percentage increase in rates for all members, whether directly employed or a sub contractor like myself.
Kermit power said:
How does this work if you're not in a fully unionised workplace? Would I suddenly be able to bring a Union rep in to negotiate an annual pay review on my behalf? Would I be able to strike if I didn't like the outcome without risk of being sacked?
Your union only negotiates pay if your employer has "recognised" the union to handle pay negotiations.You're only protected from being sacked if it's an "official" strike. There are various legal hurdles for a strike to be declared official and they include approval by a vote of all members.
Trust Pilot reviews of GMB are a bit of an eye-opener. Some of them are worth a read!
https://uk.trustpilot.com/review/www.gmb.org.uk
Panamax said:
Kermit power said:
How does this work if you're not in a fully unionised workplace? Would I suddenly be able to bring a Union rep in to negotiate an annual pay review on my behalf? Would I be able to strike if I didn't like the outcome without risk of being sacked?
Your union only negotiates pay if your employer has "recognised" the union to handle pay negotiations.You're only protected from being sacked if it's an "official" strike. There are various legal hurdles for a strike to be declared official and they include approval by a vote of all members.
Trust Pilot reviews of GMB are a bit of an eye-opener. Some of them are worth a read!
https://uk.trustpilot.com/review/www.gmb.org.uk
As for the reviews, those are nuts, especially when the first 5* one is actually someone having a rant about being followed round Asda to make sure they're not nicking stuff!
xx99xx said:
How does it work for non members? Surely union negotiations would get implemented for all staff and not just the members?
Again, I’m going to have to be brief as I’m still chasing the clock.From what I’ve read on the notice board in the Managers office, these pay increases are only for those who are in the GMB.
It’s all been kept a bit hush-hush at work. I suppose so there isn’t a glut of drivers joining the Union.
Mr Penguin said:
The results of pay negotiations should apply to everyone, not just the members of the union.
I’m pretty sure they are - an employer can’t manage two sets of pay scales, one for unionised and one for not.Back in the early 90s I was in the NUJ as I worked in IT at a news agency in Fleet Street. It wasn’t a closed shop, but ‘advised’ by the old lags that spent 3 hours a day in The Bell as a good idea. They were the ones that had been there for 30odd years and regularly had a little strike over nothing. The newer guys there never had any beef with the employers, and pay rises had nothing to do with the union, we were all on the same scales.
https://www.cipd.org/uk/knowledge/guides/working-t...
Agreements reached through collective bargaining apply to all staff in the bargaining unit regardless of whether they are union members or not (unless individuals have agreed to be exempt from the collective process). So, an agreement with your recognised trade union to increase wage rates by 5% means all relevant staff receive the pay rise, not just those who are in the union.
Agreements reached through collective bargaining apply to all staff in the bargaining unit regardless of whether they are union members or not (unless individuals have agreed to be exempt from the collective process). So, an agreement with your recognised trade union to increase wage rates by 5% means all relevant staff receive the pay rise, not just those who are in the union.
Mr Penguin said:
https://www.cipd.org/uk/knowledge/guides/working-t...
Agreements reached through collective bargaining apply to all staff in the bargaining unit regardless of whether they are union members or not (unless individuals have agreed to be exempt from the collective process). So, an agreement with your recognised trade union to increase wage rates by 5% means all relevant staff receive the pay rise, not just those who are in the union.
That’s interesting. Thank you Agreements reached through collective bargaining apply to all staff in the bargaining unit regardless of whether they are union members or not (unless individuals have agreed to be exempt from the collective process). So, an agreement with your recognised trade union to increase wage rates by 5% means all relevant staff receive the pay rise, not just those who are in the union.
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