Overpaid but already left

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Mirinjawbro

Original Poster:

768 posts

71 months

Thursday 23rd November 2023
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Hello all

was overpaid after i left and the company are asking for the money back

they originally just sent a figure so i asked for a breakdown


they have divided the monthly income, divide 22 days (working days) then x that by the number of days i worked in that time

then based of that they knocked out NI , Tax, student loan etc


surely its not that simple? wouldn't they need to know how much tax i've paid so far this year?

thankyou

CraigyMc

17,111 posts

243 months

Thursday 23rd November 2023
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Mirinjawbro said:
Hello all

was overpaid after i left and the company are asking for the money back

they originally just sent a figure so i asked for a breakdown


they have divided the monthly income, divide 22 days (working days) then x that by the number of days i worked in that time

then based of that they knocked out NI , Tax, student loan etc


surely its not that simple? wouldn't they need to know how much tax i've paid so far this year?

thankyou
They only need to tax you based on what they paid you, not on any other income you have from other employment, pension, etc.

TL;DR it probably is that simple for them.

Your pay (if you are typical salary and PAYE) will be taxed properly for the year by any future employer in the same year, by a tax code change.

If you make enough (>£100K) or are complex enough (loads of things going on) to need to do self assessment, you would work this out in your return for 2023/24.

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42,033 posts

203 months

Thursday 23rd November 2023
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Mirinjawbro said:
Hello all

was overpaid after i left and the company are asking for the money back

they originally just sent a figure so i asked for a breakdown


they have divided the monthly income, divide 22 days (working days) then x that by the number of days i worked in that time

then based of that they knocked out NI , Tax, student loan etc


surely its not that simple? wouldn't they need to know how much tax i've paid so far this year?

thankyou
Assuming I've understood correctly it IS that simple

The first part of your calculation shows the GROSS overpayment

The second part of your calculation removes the elements that they will recover from HMRC (tax, NI, Student Loan)

This leaves your NET overpayment (the amount they want back from you)

ETA the tax you've paid for the year is irrelevant. It's only the tax they have deducted on that particular payslip that matters. That being said, if it's your one and only job then there shouldn't be any difference.


Mirinjawbro

Original Poster:

768 posts

71 months

Thursday 23rd November 2023
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ok thats fine then

thanks

D1ngd0ng

1,014 posts

172 months

Thursday 23rd November 2023
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Hi, is outstanding holiday pay (presuming you have some) been accounted for in your final pay cheque? Just wanted to mention as you didn’t specifically.

CraigyMc

17,111 posts

243 months

Thursday 23rd November 2023
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Out of interest, do you have a P45 and P60 from your previous employer?

Mirinjawbro

Original Poster:

768 posts

71 months

Friday 24th November 2023
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D1ngd0ng said:
Hi, is outstanding holiday pay (presuming you have some) been accounted for in your final pay cheque? Just wanted to mention as you didn’t specifically.
all holiday cleared as i knew i was leaving

Mirinjawbro

Original Poster:

768 posts

71 months

Friday 24th November 2023
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CraigyMc said:
Out of interest, do you have a P45 and P60 from your previous employer?
yes

Pent

286 posts

26 months

Friday 24th November 2023
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Probably also covered in your contract of employment

CraigyMc

17,111 posts

243 months

Friday 24th November 2023
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Mirinjawbro said:
CraigyMc said:
Out of interest, do you have a P45 and P60 from your previous employer?
yes
Are they for the original yearly pay and benefits totals, or for the newly remediated one?