Possible promotion - would a payrise be expected or not?
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I've been in my role for 9 months and when I joined I was the only person in my team for the entire region of EMEA. As a result I was in the deep end and dealt with lots of really difficult/stressful things by myself. It wasn't fun but it did mean I got really well known by the Sales team as a reliable point of contact.
I am a Senior Consultant in a really technical position. There are now other people on my team.The company is about 2000 people globally and is in the cyber security industry.
I had a mid-year review recently and my Director (who has always been very nice) praised me for a lot of my work and graded me as a 2 (1 is the highest, 5 is the lowest).
During the call I said I felt at times like I wasn't working to my full potential and that my previous management experience, plus leadership skills weren't being used. I was keen to look at development and promotion opportunities, etc.
He said he has a budgeting meeting next week and his plan was to move me to Principal Consulant. Likely to be the same kinds of duties, but just a technical lead and probably just better status.
This promotion may not happen until March/April (at a guess). But if it does, would you expect a pay increase? I've only been with the company 9 months, the pay is very good as it is an American company. I know I can ask, negotiate, etc. but just wondered in a corporate/private sector consultancy like this would you expect an automatic pay increase?
I am a Senior Consultant in a really technical position. There are now other people on my team.The company is about 2000 people globally and is in the cyber security industry.
I had a mid-year review recently and my Director (who has always been very nice) praised me for a lot of my work and graded me as a 2 (1 is the highest, 5 is the lowest).
During the call I said I felt at times like I wasn't working to my full potential and that my previous management experience, plus leadership skills weren't being used. I was keen to look at development and promotion opportunities, etc.
He said he has a budgeting meeting next week and his plan was to move me to Principal Consulant. Likely to be the same kinds of duties, but just a technical lead and probably just better status.
This promotion may not happen until March/April (at a guess). But if it does, would you expect a pay increase? I've only been with the company 9 months, the pay is very good as it is an American company. I know I can ask, negotiate, etc. but just wondered in a corporate/private sector consultancy like this would you expect an automatic pay increase?
Burrow01 said:
Why would you not expect a pay rise for a promotion involving extra responsibility?
I don't know if there are much more responsibilities. The director said he felt there was limited progression as the technical roles had a lack of levels. When I was saying about feeling underused basically and that my leadership experience could be better applied I said about management roles. He then said he had a budgeting meeting approaching he had me down as Principal consultant and asked how I felt about it.
There is only one other principal at the moment on a team of about 10.
I've looked online and there's lots of posts and articles about promotions without a pay rise. This is my first private sector role - preciously I was in the public sector.
I also wasn't sure if me only being here for say 12 months would be a factor too.
Edited by redrabbit29 on Thursday 9th November 16:58
redrabbit29 said:
Burrow01 said:
Why would you not expect a pay rise for a promotion involving extra responsibility?
I don't know if there are much more responsibilities. The director said he felt there was limited progression as the technical roles had a lack of levels. When I was saying about feeling underused basically and that my leadership experience could be better applied I said about management roles. He then said he had a budgeting meeting approaching he had me down as Principal consultant and asked how I felt about it.
I've looked online and there's lots of posts and articles about promotions without a pay rise. This is my first private sector role - preciously I was in the public sector.
I also wasn't sure if me only being here for say 12 months would be a factor too.
Edited by redrabbit29 on Thursday 9th November 16:58
Companies promoting people and not giving a pay rise are taking the michael - anyone who this happens to should start looking for a new job straight away :-)
Promotions work both ways. We are, after all, not in work just for fun.
If there was nothing in it for you apart from fully utilising your skills, what is the point in a promotion?
You should absolutely ask for more money, regardless of how long you’ve been there.
If your boss says there is no money or extra benefits in this promotion, it’s time then to take a hard look at whether it’s worth you taking it.
If there was nothing in it for you apart from fully utilising your skills, what is the point in a promotion?
You should absolutely ask for more money, regardless of how long you’ve been there.
If your boss says there is no money or extra benefits in this promotion, it’s time then to take a hard look at whether it’s worth you taking it.
Burrow01 said:
Why would you not expect a pay rise for a promotion involving extra responsibility?
Lol. Quite. Nothing in private sector should come for free. American tech companies always have way more cash than you think. Our salaries are also cheap to them given US/U.K. pay differences in many firms.
Edited by okgo on Thursday 9th November 18:31
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