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Racehorse

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217 posts

17 months

Sunday 13th August 2023
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Had a first round initial interview which was positive. After this, I was quickly invited for final interview.

I asked what salary this position was at, to which I got told there is no set figure and it depends on current salary, experience and standard across industry.

For me the salary for this role needs to be atleast 40k above what I am currently on for my current role which is obviously a huge uplift. I don't really want to go for final interview and then get a low offer.

Not sure how to tell them or do I go to final stage?

Doofus

28,464 posts

180 months

Sunday 13th August 2023
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Is that uplift 10% or 100%?

Why do you need an extra £40k?

Racehorse

Original Poster:

217 posts

17 months

Sunday 13th August 2023
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It is far greater responsbility than my current role in many ways plus the standard across my sector

Uplift would be 40% from my current eage.

zbc

899 posts

158 months

Sunday 13th August 2023
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I would just tell them. Something along the lines of "I don't want to waste both our times but I would be looking for x"

Shnozz

28,008 posts

278 months

Sunday 13th August 2023
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Ooooo a salary thread. Imagine my surprise.

Mr Pointy

11,840 posts

166 months

Sunday 13th August 2023
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Racehorse said:
It is far greater responsbility than my current role in many ways plus the standard across my sector

Uplift would be 40% from my current eage.
Do you have a clear idea of what overall package you want - salary & benefits (pension/leave/WAH/heath insurance/bonus/car etc)? That's the first thing you need to put together. Your current salary is irrelevant - you aren't applying for your current job.

bitchstewie

55,145 posts

217 months

Sunday 13th August 2023
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Shnozz said:
Ooooo a salary thread. Imagine my surprise.
It is a bit weird.

Countdown

42,036 posts

203 months

Sunday 13th August 2023
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bhstewie said:
Shnozz said:
Ooooo a salary thread. Imagine my surprise.
It is a bit weird.
Completely standard for Welshbeef.

Be prepared for a million questions of the type a curious and unworldly teenager might ask

Funk

26,573 posts

216 months

Sunday 13th August 2023
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Mr Pointy said:
Do you have a clear idea of what overall package you want - salary & benefits (pension/leave/WAH/heath insurance/bonus/car etc)? That's the first thing you need to put together. Your current salary is irrelevant - you aren't applying for your current job.
Good post.

Also re. current salary - very true. Any company that asks that is just trying to gauge how small of an uplift they can get away with offering you. If I were interviewing now I'd want salary and package on the table asap, just as they'd want my skills, experience and abilities on the table asap. If salary expectations are miles apart then it simply saves everyone wasting a load of time going through the whole process.

Edited by Funk on Sunday 13th August 12:43

Racehorse

Original Poster:

217 posts

17 months

Sunday 13th August 2023
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Mr Pointy said:
Racehorse said:
It is far greater responsbility than my current role in many ways plus the standard across my sector

Uplift would be 40% from my current eage.
Do you have a clear idea of what overall package you want - salary & benefits (pension/leave/WAH/heath insurance/bonus/car etc)? That's the first thing you need to put together. Your current salary is irrelevant - you aren't applying for your current job.
They asked my current salary at first interview which makes me think they are trying to uplift from my current salary which is frustrating as my current role has nothing to do with current role.

Hoofy

77,492 posts

289 months

Sunday 13th August 2023
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zbc said:
I would just tell them. Something along the lines of "I don't want to waste both our times but I would be looking for x"
Exactly the above. If you want a 40% increase, then you're going to have demonstrate your leadership ability by being a bit more forward. Or alpha or man up or whatever phrase gets you motivated.

Funk

26,573 posts

216 months

Sunday 13th August 2023
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Racehorse said:
Mr Pointy said:
Racehorse said:
It is far greater responsbility than my current role in many ways plus the standard across my sector

Uplift would be 40% from my current eage.
Do you have a clear idea of what overall package you want - salary & benefits (pension/leave/WAH/heath insurance/bonus/car etc)? That's the first thing you need to put together. Your current salary is irrelevant - you aren't applying for your current job.
They asked my current salary at first interview which makes me think they are trying to uplift from my current salary which is frustrating as my current role has nothing to do with current role.
It takes balls but....you didn't/don't have to tell them what you're on now; it isn't any of their business.

Hoofy

77,492 posts

289 months

Sunday 13th August 2023
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Funk said:
Racehorse said:
Mr Pointy said:
Racehorse said:
It is far greater responsbility than my current role in many ways plus the standard across my sector

Uplift would be 40% from my current eage.
Do you have a clear idea of what overall package you want - salary & benefits (pension/leave/WAH/heath insurance/bonus/car etc)? That's the first thing you need to put together. Your current salary is irrelevant - you aren't applying for your current job.
They asked my current salary at first interview which makes me think they are trying to uplift from my current salary which is frustrating as my current role has nothing to do with current role.
It takes balls but....you didn't/don't have to tell them what you're on now; it isn't any of their business.
Agreed.

Mr Pointy

11,840 posts

166 months

Sunday 13th August 2023
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Racehorse said:
Mr Pointy said:
Racehorse said:
It is far greater responsbility than my current role in many ways plus the standard across my sector

Uplift would be 40% from my current eage.
Do you have a clear idea of what overall package you want - salary & benefits (pension/leave/WAH/heath insurance/bonus/car etc)? That's the first thing you need to put together. Your current salary is irrelevant - you aren't applying for your current job.
They asked my current salary at first interview which makes me think they are trying to uplift from my current salary which is frustrating as my current role has nothing to do with current role.
That wasn't the question I asked. You need to have a clear idea what you want & communicate it to them.

Sheets Tabuer

19,645 posts

222 months

Sunday 13th August 2023
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Tell them you want an extra 60k and haggle them down.

abzmike

9,292 posts

113 months

Sunday 13th August 2023
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Why not attend the final interview, and demonstrate why it’s worth them giving you a 40k pay rise?

zbc

899 posts

158 months

Sunday 13th August 2023
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Funk said:
It takes balls but....you didn't/don't have to tell them what you're on now; it isn't any of their business.
I get this and don't completely disagree but it very much depends on the role and a host of other things. If they ask at first interview, they're interviewing 10 candidates and you do a fairly normal job then not telling them might just be enough to not get a second interview. I'm actually thinking now that I'm at a time where I might downsize my aspirations and take something less pressured and give me more home time. I've mentioned my current salary a couple of times and they start panicking. It's quite amusing but I think I've lost out more than once. I'm not paid a fortune just a bit more than typical for my current role.

x5tuu

12,141 posts

194 months

Sunday 13th August 2023
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I wouldn’t disclose the current package at all.

I’d expect want to know what their “band” is financially and the broader package details too before going any further.

snuffy

10,467 posts

291 months

Sunday 13th August 2023
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CheesecakeRunner said:
Racehorse said:
For me the salary for this role needs to be atleast 40k above what I am currently on for my current role
Let me guess, you want £100k?
Guess again.


snuffy

10,467 posts

291 months

Sunday 13th August 2023
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Racehorse said:
For me the salary for this role needs to be atleast 40k above what I am currently on for my current role which is obviously a huge uplift.
Racehorse said:
Uplift would be 40% from my current eage.
CheesecakeRunner said:
Pretty sure I’d be right, given nearly all of the 135 posts posts then OP has made in the two months they’ve been here have been obsessing over £100k salaries.
If 40K is 40%, Mr R. Horse must be currently on £100k, and now wants £140k.

I must say, for someone on £100k, he's asks some very odd questions.