Working abroad with a British passport

Working abroad with a British passport

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goldar

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550 posts

29 months

Wednesday 9th August 2023
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Specifically, working in the EU.
From what I gather it's beneficial to have an EU passport else you can only work for 90 days at a time.

I have no way of obtaining an EU passport through family, is there some other way to get around the issue?

greygoose

8,642 posts

202 months

Wednesday 9th August 2023
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You could apply for a visa to work in whatever country it is.

goldar

Original Poster:

550 posts

29 months

Wednesday 9th August 2023
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That is an option. However, a lot of recruiters are specifically asking for people with the right to work in the EU. I was refused a job because I didn't have an EU passport.

Zaichik

284 posts

43 months

Wednesday 9th August 2023
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goldar said:
Specifically, working in the EU.
From what I gather it's beneficial to have an EU passport else you can only work for 90 days at a time.
Without an EU passport or work visa, you are not allowed to work at all.

deckster

9,631 posts

262 months

Wednesday 9th August 2023
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goldar said:
That is an option. However, a lot of recruiters are specifically asking for people with the right to work in the EU. I was refused a job because I didn't have an EU passport.
There was a vote about this a few years back, there was quite a lot about it in the papers at the time as I recall.

goldar

Original Poster:

550 posts

29 months

Wednesday 9th August 2023
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deckster said:
goldar said:
That is an option. However, a lot of recruiters are specifically asking for people with the right to work in the EU. I was refused a job because I didn't have an EU passport.
There was a vote about this a few years back, there was quite a lot about it in the papers at the time as I recall.
When you're done crying about it feel free to add in some useful information.

deckster

9,631 posts

262 months

Wednesday 9th August 2023
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goldar said:
deckster said:
goldar said:
That is an option. However, a lot of recruiters are specifically asking for people with the right to work in the EU. I was refused a job because I didn't have an EU passport.
There was a vote about this a few years back, there was quite a lot about it in the papers at the time as I recall.
When you're done crying about it feel free to add in some useful information.
???

You're the one that was refused a job as a direct consequence.

goldar

Original Poster:

550 posts

29 months

Wednesday 9th August 2023
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Please take your concerns to the Brexit thread.

deckster

9,631 posts

262 months

Wednesday 9th August 2023
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goldar said:
Please take your concerns to the Brexit thread.
Your concerns. Not mine.

You've been given the answer. You have no right to work in the EU and you will need to get a work visa. This isn't necessarily straightforward if you don't already hold a job offer.

I was merely expressing surprise in a light-hearted manner that you didn't know this.

E63eeeeee...

4,553 posts

56 months

Wednesday 9th August 2023
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You could invest somewhere in the EU and do a golden visa/citizenship thing. Malta want something like three quarters of a million.

If you're not PBCD enough for that, then you've already had the right answer. You need to apply for the right to work in the country you're looking to work in.

Plan C would be to marry an EU national and get them to move with you to the country you want to work in. Irish ladies are nice. Marrying one from the country you want to work in will be more complicated, but probably doable subject to the rules of that country.

goldar

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550 posts

29 months

Wednesday 9th August 2023
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E63eeeeee... said:
You could invest somewhere in the EU and do a golden visa/citizenship thing. Malta want something like three quarters of a million.

If you're not PBCD enough for that, then you've already had the right answer. You need to apply for the right to work in the country you're looking to work in.

Plan C would be to marry an EU national and get them to move with you to the country you want to work in. Irish ladies are nice. Marrying one from the country you want to work in will be more complicated, but probably doable subject to the rules of that country.
Good answer.

I was thinking there might be some sort of loophole, but not 750k.
Not quite sure I could get married by the end of the day.
A working visa is fine, but I'm puzzled as to why the recruiter was only considering EU passport holders.

craigjm

18,479 posts

207 months

Wednesday 9th August 2023
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Cyprus require only 300k

goldar

Original Poster:

550 posts

29 months

Wednesday 9th August 2023
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Been googling and it looks like Greece is 250k. Anyone know of any cheaper?

Bluesgirl

779 posts

98 months

Wednesday 9th August 2023
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Google says:

The Cheapest Golden visa program in Europe is Malta MPRP. Malta offers direct permanent residence in schengen for one time government contribution of 100,000 euro plus fees. Renting a property or buying a real estate is required. Family members can be included.

The 90-day limit you're referring to in your OP relates to maximum stay in an EU country without a visa - 90 days in any 180 days and you aren't allowed to work.

abzmike

9,291 posts

113 months

Wednesday 9th August 2023
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goldar said:
Good answer.

I was thinking there might be some sort of loophole, but not 750k.
Not quite sure I could get married by the end of the day.
A working visa is fine, but I'm puzzled as to why the recruiter was only considering EU passport holders.
The recruiter, or employer, probably don't want the aggro or potential aditional visa expense for an applicant without straightforward rights to work in the EU.

E63eeeeee...

4,553 posts

56 months

Wednesday 9th August 2023
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Bluesgirl said:
Google says:

The Cheapest Golden visa program in Europe is Malta MPRP. Malta offers direct permanent residence in schengen for one time government contribution of 100,000 euro plus fees. Renting a property or buying a real estate is required. Family members can be included.

The 90-day limit you're referring to in your OP relates to maximum stay in an EU country without a visa - 90 days in any 180 days and you aren't allowed to work.
Would permanent residence in Malta give you the right to work elsewhere in the EU though, or just in Malta? You'd still be a British Citizen so you wouldn't have the treaty rights based right to work across the EU, which I think is what the employer is asking for.

EmilA

1,615 posts

164 months

Wednesday 9th August 2023
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Aside from "investing" in an EU country there are no other ways unless you get a work visa. I use to work in the EU, sadly thats come to an end due to Brexit and the complications it brought on.

mikef

5,247 posts

258 months

Wednesday 9th August 2023
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I just did a few months in the EU, Monday to Wednesday each week onsite, and other days wfh. Contracted to a UK company in the same group (downside: contract then has to be inside IR35). Paid through UK umbrella, expenses including weekly travel and accommodation reimbursed directly by EU client into a Wise Euro account. The client and agency would have to really want you to put all that in place. Also need to keep track of days in EU over each rolling 180 day period, may mean taking hols outside the EU for a while

Edited by mikef on Wednesday 9th August 15:06

goldar

Original Poster:

550 posts

29 months

Wednesday 9th August 2023
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Is it possible to get citizenship in Ireland and retain a British passport? I think you're required to invest £1m (not that I have that much anyway).

goldar

Original Poster:

550 posts

29 months

Wednesday 9th August 2023
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Looking into Malta's MPRP:
"Investors obtain permanent residency in Malta, which allows them to live in the country and visit the Schengen Area for 90 days in 180."

I don't get it. I thought an EU passport allowed unfettered access to anywhere within the EU for any length of time?