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Now this is some piece of work by Amazon, possibly the most un-user friendly, un-navigable most useless piece of tripe I have ever looked at on a computer screen.
I mean they do not even tailor it for the user, so all the payment stuff is in American speak, so you get all sorts of terms you would never use here.
It just generates tens of emails, and asks you to do things with no help, no idea where to get stuff from.
Honestly, the single most uselessly unhelpful piece of software I have ever used in my life. it is utterly counter-intuitive Take a look at the reviews on Trustpilot, I have never seen such poor reviews, yet for some reason big dollar firms are all using it, what on earth did Bezos and co do to somehow make everyone use this, did he offer them free internal mail or something?
I mean they do not even tailor it for the user, so all the payment stuff is in American speak, so you get all sorts of terms you would never use here.
It just generates tens of emails, and asks you to do things with no help, no idea where to get stuff from.
Honestly, the single most uselessly unhelpful piece of software I have ever used in my life. it is utterly counter-intuitive Take a look at the reviews on Trustpilot, I have never seen such poor reviews, yet for some reason big dollar firms are all using it, what on earth did Bezos and co do to somehow make everyone use this, did he offer them free internal mail or something?
LukeBrown66 said:
...It just generates tens of emails...
The worst bit is where you move onto the next stage of a process (eg. submitting your overtime or holiday request) and then find an email telling you that a task is waiting for you which you either have to ignore or go back in to make sure you've done it correctly.If only it waited until a task had been waiting for an hour or even 10 minutes behind sending alerts.
I assume the advantage to employers is they sign up for 'cheap' monthly charges rather paying up front for other software packages or developing their own internal software.
Large companies seem to love it because it makes life so much easier for their HR departments - allegedly.
The fact that it’s costs a fortune , it’s ability to annoy every member of staff that has to use it , that in reality it becomes a backwards step for existing unbroken processes all lead to the conclusion that it provides a non workable solution to a problem that wasn’t actually there.
But until you use it you think the marketing sounds great.
The fact that it’s costs a fortune , it’s ability to annoy every member of staff that has to use it , that in reality it becomes a backwards step for existing unbroken processes all lead to the conclusion that it provides a non workable solution to a problem that wasn’t actually there.
But until you use it you think the marketing sounds great.
alscar said:
Large companies seem to love it because it makes life so much easier for their HR departments ...
HR depts won't care that it takes employees extra time to do tasks as it is not out of their budgets. And senior managers all have minions to do their paperwork so they won't be impacted.Relatedly, I had to go into Workday this morning as I'd realised I hadn't logged the week off to go to Le Mans last month. I'd forgotten as I'd booked it off with my boss at the start of the year but the Workday bookings couldn't be done until the start of the new financial year in April. Our last holiday tool interacted with our weekly timesheet tool and highlighted if you had booked holiday in one tool but not the other.....
I am using it as part of job application process, I have the job already, this is about updating details, etc, even a simple think like bank details, bears no resemblance to any other portal or similar system I have sued, tho the point where you wonder if you are even on the right pages or inputting the right data.
What is more annoying is that all this info has been emailed, inputted several times already as others say, it is basically HR departments doing literally NOTHING whatsoever with regard to recruitment or admin.
So please tell, me what do they actually do if not some of this stuff? Other than in my recent experience seems to spend all their time trying to find ways of getting rid of people to "save money"
What is more annoying is that all this info has been emailed, inputted several times already as others say, it is basically HR departments doing literally NOTHING whatsoever with regard to recruitment or admin.
So please tell, me what do they actually do if not some of this stuff? Other than in my recent experience seems to spend all their time trying to find ways of getting rid of people to "save money"
LukeBrown66 said:
What is more annoying is that all this info has been emailed, inputted several times already as others say, it is basically HR departments doing literally NOTHING whatsoever with regard to recruitment or admin.
So please tell, me what do they actually do if not some of this stuff? Other than in my recent experience seems to spend all their time trying to find ways of getting rid of people to "save money"
Stuff that our HR Department is currently working onSo please tell, me what do they actually do if not some of this stuff? Other than in my recent experience seems to spend all their time trying to find ways of getting rid of people to "save money"
Annual pay award and bonuses conversations
Restructuring one department (getting rid of 25fte in the cheapest way possible)
Recruitment (roughly 100 posts per annum)
Dealing with a shedload of internal grievances and disciplinaries (because some managers are useless wimps)
Dealing with a shedload of internal grievances and disciplinaries (because some managers are power-mad Hitlers)
Monthly payroll and pensions for 600 staff
Training courses
The team is relatively small and they have automated as much as they can. The recruitment process being an excellent example - no more carting around hard copies of 50+ applications, the online system does it all.
Countdown said:
LukeBrown66 said:
What is more annoying is that all this info has been emailed, inputted several times already as others say, it is basically HR departments doing literally NOTHING whatsoever with regard to recruitment or admin.
So please tell, me what do they actually do if not some of this stuff? Other than in my recent experience seems to spend all their time trying to find ways of getting rid of people to "save money"
Stuff that our HR Department is currently working onSo please tell, me what do they actually do if not some of this stuff? Other than in my recent experience seems to spend all their time trying to find ways of getting rid of people to "save money"
Annual pay award and bonuses conversations
Restructuring one department (getting rid of 25fte in the cheapest way possible)
Recruitment (roughly 100 posts per annum)
Dealing with a shedload of internal grievances and disciplinaries (because some managers are useless wimps)
Dealing with a shedload of internal grievances and disciplinaries (because some managers are power-mad Hitlers)
Monthly payroll and pensions for 600 staff
Training courses
The team is relatively small and they have automated as much as they can. The recruitment process being an excellent example - no more carting around hard copies of 50+ applications, the online system does it all.
HR do general company policy for personnel, pension admin processing (the actual pension manager is contracted out to pension company), payroll is sent to another division which deals with accounting and admin transaction.
HR do update their own internal website but it is a mumble jumble. They come up with software update ideas, explaining to management the productivity gain and award themselves and management bonuses for coming up with these schemes.
ETA: as for WorkDay, I'm hearing the same complaints from managers in my department. They did have a working system but now have this instead.
LukeBrown66 said:
Now this is some piece of work by Amazon, possibly the most un-user friendly, un-navigable most useless piece of tripe I have ever looked at on a computer screen.
Apart from it being hosted on AWS, what's it got to do with Amazon? I mean Amazon couldn't get it to work for their own needs so binned them off as a supplier ages ago.Not that it isn't still s
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Jasey_ said:
Didn't save our HR dept any time when it decided I had no holidays left for the year.
I think it tied up 2 HR and 1 IT bod for a couple of weeks trying to figure out wtf it had done and then how to fix it.
Which eventually was fully resolved after 2 months.
Pile of cack.
I think it tied up 2 HR and 1 IT bod for a couple of weeks trying to figure out wtf it had done and then how to fix it.
Which eventually was fully resolved after 2 months.
Pile of cack.
Last 3 words perfect description. Despite having some “minions” ( as mentioned above in a previous reply ) , in my previous work life I still had to do annual reviews on it for some - the joy of getting a blue arrow in the quickest time for me I’m sure was much less valuable than the previous process for them !
Holidays were indeed farcical on the system and most people ended up retaining a simple excel ss within their teams or departments and then getting WD completed after the event.
Wish I’d bought shares in it though.
Workday is utter, utter sh!te, it is hard to envisage getting UX design worse. Every time I used it to do a simple task, I had to get a two-page cheat sheet from my HR rep. Counter-intuitive doesn’t even begin to describe it
And I say this as someone who spend several years of my career in California building a certain e-Business suite, which gets an honourable mention in this thread
And I say this as someone who spend several years of my career in California building a certain e-Business suite, which gets an honourable mention in this thread
mikef said:
Workday is utter, utter sh!te, it is hard to envisage getting UX design worse. Every time I used it to do a simple task, I had to get a two-page cheat sheet from my HR rep. Counter-intuitive doesn’t even begin to describe it
And I say this as someone who spend several years of my career in California building a certain e-Business suite, which gets an honourable mention in this thread
Have you tried Successfactors? I can’t see how anything could be worse. And I say this as someone who spend several years of my career in California building a certain e-Business suite, which gets an honourable mention in this thread
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