DBS pain in the bum
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This is the bane of my life when applying for certain firms
And I gather it is nothing to do with criminal records etc, it is all to do with credit history?
I know DBS is linked mainly to finding out of you have spent or unspent convictions, so what on earth does credit history have to do with it?
Is this just another example of crappy firms like Experitoss sticking their ore into something that has nothing to do with them to make even more sodding money?
Every time I do this, I ALWAYS have to do it manually taking even longer, as the online version can never proceed, this can ONLY be because of credit, nothing else as I have only lived in two places over the last 5 years. Surely credit has NOTHING to with convictions or criminal records?
And I gather it is nothing to do with criminal records etc, it is all to do with credit history?
I know DBS is linked mainly to finding out of you have spent or unspent convictions, so what on earth does credit history have to do with it?
Is this just another example of crappy firms like Experitoss sticking their ore into something that has nothing to do with them to make even more sodding money?
Every time I do this, I ALWAYS have to do it manually taking even longer, as the online version can never proceed, this can ONLY be because of credit, nothing else as I have only lived in two places over the last 5 years. Surely credit has NOTHING to with convictions or criminal records?
I called them a few years ago to ask why there were always issue with me doing this online.
And I was told that it is outsourced to credit agencies.
There is no other explanation, I have two addresses, both confirmed, what else could there be, I have no criminal record.
The ONLY reason it could not be possible to do this online is to do with something else, and after talking to this lady she confirmed it was likely linked to credit rating
And I was told that it is outsourced to credit agencies.
There is no other explanation, I have two addresses, both confirmed, what else could there be, I have no criminal record.
The ONLY reason it could not be possible to do this online is to do with something else, and after talking to this lady she confirmed it was likely linked to credit rating
What sort of role is it? Some jobs need to be checked to meet FCA requirements. I'm not really aware of any reason why jobs that fall outside the FCA requirements would need a credit check though.
e.g.
https://cbscreening.co.uk/news/post/employment-scr...
e.g.
https://cbscreening.co.uk/news/post/employment-scr...
Motorman74 said:
I'm not really aware of any reason why jobs that fall outside the FCA requirements would need a credit check though.
https://cbscreening.co.uk/news/post/employment-scr...
Because really desperate people are a risk. (In one of my previous roles we had to be security vetted to a very high level. The credit thing was explained to me in detail). I could tell you about it, but then I'd need to make you disappear https://cbscreening.co.uk/news/post/employment-scr...
LukeBrown66 said:
I called them a few years ago to ask why there were always issue with me doing this online.
And I was told that it is outsourced to credit agencies.
There is no other explanation, I have two addresses, both confirmed, what else could there be, I have no criminal record.
The ONLY reason it could not be possible to do this online is to do with something else, and after talking to this lady she confirmed it was likely linked to credit rating
It looks like Credit Agencies do DBS checks but that doesn't mean that they do credit checks on the people they DBS check (IYSWIM). The two processes aren't linked. However there are probably economies of scale in that some of the data used for credit checks is probably needed for DBS checks. And I was told that it is outsourced to credit agencies.
There is no other explanation, I have two addresses, both confirmed, what else could there be, I have no criminal record.
The ONLY reason it could not be possible to do this online is to do with something else, and after talking to this lady she confirmed it was likely linked to credit rating
The role is linked to defence contracting but this has happened every time I have had to apply for DBS, I can NEVER manage to complete online and in a past time I was offered options by the Gov website and all the credit arses were on there as options, this is how I know sometimes it is done through them
I have no issue with this per se, but this is supposed to be about criminal records etc, nothing to do with credit, but they clearly have not really done anything to modify the checking for the job required here so it just throws you out anyway as you have little or no credit history Very poor administration if you ask, me and typical of the modern way of doing things.
there is no real other reason why a check should have to be done manually in my eyes?
I have no issue with this per se, but this is supposed to be about criminal records etc, nothing to do with credit, but they clearly have not really done anything to modify the checking for the job required here so it just throws you out anyway as you have little or no credit history Very poor administration if you ask, me and typical of the modern way of doing things.
there is no real other reason why a check should have to be done manually in my eyes?
Hmm.
Normally a new employer will issue you access to do a DBS once they have personally witnessed your private documentation.
Sounds like you are doing a DBS yourself via an umbrella company which could be the people like the credit check companies.
There is no link between DBS and credit check whatsoever.
As said above there may need to be FCA check but that has no link to DBS.
If you are continually failing online DBS application then perhaps there is an issue with the data/documentation you are supplying. it is a rigorous process by design.
Normally a new employer will issue you access to do a DBS once they have personally witnessed your private documentation.
Sounds like you are doing a DBS yourself via an umbrella company which could be the people like the credit check companies.
There is no link between DBS and credit check whatsoever.
As said above there may need to be FCA check but that has no link to DBS.
If you are continually failing online DBS application then perhaps there is an issue with the data/documentation you are supplying. it is a rigorous process by design.
Edited by FunkyGibbon on Friday 30th June 19:37
sunbeam alpine said:
I clicked on this thread genuinely believing it to be a thread on attending job interviews in an inappropriate car (something of which I may have been guilty in the past 
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What is DBS? Google isn't being particularly helpful.
Disclosure and barring service, you may recognise it more under the previous name of CRB checks. ). What is DBS? Google isn't being particularly helpful.
https://www.gov.uk/government/organisations/disclo...
Motorman74 said:
What sort of role is it? Some jobs need to be checked to meet FCA requirements. I'm not really aware of any reason why jobs that fall outside the FCA requirements would need a credit check though.
e.g.
https://cbscreening.co.uk/news/post/employment-scr...
I am the Responsible Principal for our RICS corporate membership at work. The RICS require a credit check even though we are not an FSA regulated businesse.g.
https://cbscreening.co.uk/news/post/employment-scr...
Register for the DBS update service within 1m of a DBS check and you will never have to do another one. £13/yr.
https://www.gov.uk/dbs-update-service
https://www.gov.uk/dbs-update-service
It is fairly simple let me try and explain.
The role I have been recruited for work with defence supply, that is pretty much their sole customer.
So I have to do a few things extra, a full 5y HMRC check for references (royal pain in the arse if you have contracted as much as I have recently), some other bits and a DBS check.
On the gov site you can do this, but it never works for me online, I ALWAYS have to do it manually. Meaning push through 3 forms of ID, print out a letter, take it to PO and wait for postal DBS form.
You get to the point where inputting data and the site says you cannot carry on.
I have contacted them in the past (DBS directly) and they told me it was to do with having no real credit history. Hence the thread.
The role I have been recruited for work with defence supply, that is pretty much their sole customer.
So I have to do a few things extra, a full 5y HMRC check for references (royal pain in the arse if you have contracted as much as I have recently), some other bits and a DBS check.
On the gov site you can do this, but it never works for me online, I ALWAYS have to do it manually. Meaning push through 3 forms of ID, print out a letter, take it to PO and wait for postal DBS form.
You get to the point where inputting data and the site says you cannot carry on.
I have contacted them in the past (DBS directly) and they told me it was to do with having no real credit history. Hence the thread.
My understanding is,
- DBS is purely criminal record check plus, where appropriate, lists about working with children.
- A check with HMRC is nothing to do with your finances, it's just the identity of previous employments.
- Any form of credit check would be highly unusual unless employment in financial services where "financial probity" can be relevant.
So then, can anybody explain why applying online I NEVER am able to progress past a certain stage before being told "you have to apply another way"
The only thing I can think of is an address issue? An old address could be typed and used several ways as it was an annexe to a home, so in theory you could write 123 somewhere way, the Annex, or The Annex 123 somewhere way.
I do know that this was an issue with the Post Office some time ago, however I was on the voters register, and paid council tax etc, but it COULD be that the pull DBS makes only uses postal services data?
The only thing I can think of is an address issue? An old address could be typed and used several ways as it was an annexe to a home, so in theory you could write 123 somewhere way, the Annex, or The Annex 123 somewhere way.
I do know that this was an issue with the Post Office some time ago, however I was on the voters register, and paid council tax etc, but it COULD be that the pull DBS makes only uses postal services data?
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