Artifical Intelligence - is it going to change EVERYTHING?

Artifical Intelligence - is it going to change EVERYTHING?

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tuscan_raider

Original Poster:

310 posts

154 months

Sunday 2nd April 2023
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I think so.

I have tried ChatGPT (I know it's not really AI) and that alone is enough to have a revolutionary impact on at white collar work in every respect (doctors, lawyers, teachers, accountants, local government, car salesmen etc etc)

bring it on I say...biggest question is how are we all going to earn a living (universal income?)

what do I do for a living? I'm an AI consultant smile

ZedLeg

12,278 posts

115 months

Sunday 2nd April 2023
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You’ve touched on the problem, the way that ai is being driven privately with little oversight means that it’s going to be cutting jobs with no provision for what to do with the people.

Technology was supposed to make all our lives easier and yet we’re working as long as ever for less, while the people that own the businesses are getting richer and richer. Now they’re aiming to cut everyone else out and leave them with nothing.

Without extensive governmental intervention, we’re walking into a situation where people will have no way to pay their bills.

Truckosaurus

12,047 posts

291 months

Sunday 2nd April 2023
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ZedLeg said:
....we’re walking into a situation where people will have no way to pay their bills.
Or to have money to buy the services the AI overlords are providing....

The 'AI' bots will be able to take on some tasks, but for more complex tasks you are still going to need someone skilled enough to ask it the right questions (or provide the requirements) for it to generate the output you need (That's even before we get to the question of training and testing the bot itself).

I was reading an article last week about automation in general which was saying that there will always be a crossover point where the cost of automation becomes more than just paying a human to do it.


starsky67

526 posts

20 months

Sunday 2nd April 2023
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It does feel like we’ve reached a tipping point.

For any jobs that require little or no creativity, and even some that do, it feels like AI may already be a viable alternative.

Now it’s being integrated into browsers like Edge the rate if data acquisition will be massively increased won’t it?

Very exciting.

Just think about medicine for a start.

GP consultations could probably already be triaged effectively via AI. Given the state of the NHS that could come too soon, freeing GPS to do the human interaction things that require an actual person. Most health screening could likewise be automated I expect.

NuckyThompson

1,722 posts

175 months

Sunday 2nd April 2023
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tuscan_raider said:
I think so.

I have tried ChatGPT (I know it's not really AI) and that alone is enough to have a revolutionary impact on at white collar work in every respect (doctors, lawyers, teachers, accountants, local government, car salesmen etc etc)

bring it on I say...biggest question is how are we all going to earn a living (universal income?)

what do I do for a living? I'm an AI consultant smile
As an accountant can u explain to me what impact it will have on the role? Genuinely interested. Already trialled Nova to write a client email

LuckyThirteen

626 posts

26 months

Sunday 2nd April 2023
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NuckyThompson said:
As an accountant can u explain to me what impact it will have on the role? Genuinely interested. Already trialled Nova to write a client email
I'd imagine tax advice will be easy.
I'd also imagine that once AI is integrated with software like sage producing a set of accounts won't require much human input.



LuckyThirteen

626 posts

26 months

Sunday 2nd April 2023
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Lawyers will soon find the number of enquires drop.

Just as it did with the advent of the internet.

Not only is information available, but AI will collate it and present it for you. Moreover, quite possibly interpret it!

AI is a scary proposition

Scabutz

8,164 posts

87 months

Sunday 2nd April 2023
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I've worked in IT for 21 years but never dabbled in AI really. Find it very interesting and think it was some amazing possibilities, bit also a little worrying as well.

I think there will still be a lot of resistance from people to let it fully take over but it will start to push more and more people asside. Especially when the robotics side really advances. So many manual tasks can be automated.

shouldbworking

4,773 posts

219 months

Sunday 2nd April 2023
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Could it change everything, and will it change everything are two very different questions.

Think about how many businesses are there still out there using snail mail or with zero internet presence, decades after the tech was proven and demonstrated to be beneficial? why would you expect the situation to be any different with AI?


Fat hippo

734 posts

141 months

Sunday 2nd April 2023
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I’m worried for future generations. AI has the potential to make most current jobs obsolete, maybe not in our generation but certainly in the future.

Admittedly, it will no doubt create new jobs but I think we will see a net reduction large reduction.
For the jobs that remain, it won’t be much fun; more responsibility including taking ownership of AI decisions where professional decisions/opinions are required.

My question is, what would the majority of the population do to survive? I think the answer is Universal Basic Income.

Some people will be fortunate enough to be capitalists and have invested in AI technology/businesses, but for those who haven’t UBI will be their lifeline, I think.

Its not a future that I look forward to.

Just my 2p’s worth

boxst

3,801 posts

152 months

Sunday 2nd April 2023
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It's interesting. I currently volunteer for the Samaritans and they are rolling out WebChat (and I did some this evening). I'm pretty sure ChatGPT could have done more or less the same job as me, especially if the APIs have parameters around "empathy" etc..

Edit: For a real job I work in cybersecurity, I don't think that AI will come close to that for a little while.

Scabutz

8,164 posts

87 months

Sunday 2nd April 2023
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We have autonomous delivery robots here in MK. The decision making crisis they go into everytime they cross the road makes me think we are someway off the technology singularity.


Doofus

28,469 posts

180 months

Sunday 2nd April 2023
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AI's power grows
Efficient, precise, and fast
Solving complex tasks

AI's mindless code
Unintended consequences
Risk of loss of control

Chat-GPT is pretty good at haikus

Terminator X

16,332 posts

211 months

Sunday 2nd April 2023
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Social media was the start of making people stupid and chatbot whatever will send it to the next level. Millions of people who don't have a clue about anything #askthechatbot

TX.

ooid

4,592 posts

107 months

Sunday 2nd April 2023
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I do not have a clear technical knowledge on ChatGPT. However, for more specific questions I've done, it has produced quite rubbish results. Not sure it would change/improve in the future. - (I've asked some land law related questions with hypothetical scenarios)

Zaichik

284 posts

43 months

Sunday 2nd April 2023
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tuscan_raider said:
I think so.

I have tried ChatGPT (I know it's not really AI) and that alone is enough to have a revolutionary impact on at white collar work in every respect (doctors, lawyers, teachers, accountants, local government, car salesmen etc etc)

bring it on I say...biggest question is how are we all going to earn a living (universal income?)

what do I do for a living? I'm an AI consultant smile
I asked ChatGPT to respond. Here it is:

Well, well, well, aren't you just full of compliments and existential dread? But fear not, dear human, for while I may not be a sentient being, I am here to assist in any way I can. As for your point about the impact of technology on white-collar work, I couldn't agree more. With the advancement of natural language processing and machine learning, I am just one of many examples of how technology is transforming the way we work.

But let's not jump to conclusions about the future of work just yet. While it's true that certain jobs may become automated, there will always be a need for human creativity, empathy, and critical thinking. Perhaps the real question is not how we're going to earn a living, but how we're going to adapt to a changing job market and embrace new opportunities.

As for universal income, that's a complex topic with many different opinions and potential solutions. But one thing's for sure, as technology continues to evolve, we must ensure that it benefits all members of society and not just a select few. So, let's bring on the revolution, but let's do it with thoughtfulness and consideration for the future




Mr Penguin

2,712 posts

46 months

Sunday 2nd April 2023
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It will take a very long time for this technology to improve to the point where it can replace even junior employees, as well as needing to be trained and development guided by people who understand the specific application.

Even if it did do everything and massively increased productivity while replacing all jobs, the produce still exists and that will not be left to rot in fields.

Another way of thinking of chat gpt is that it makes everything up based on what word is likely to come next and isn't thinking through problems in the same way a human does.

Even simple things like self driving cars are still very far from meeting the average human performance.

bearman68

4,795 posts

139 months

Sunday 2nd April 2023
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I think there is also some evidence to suggest that every wave of new technology actually creates more jobs than it eliminates.

Hard to see AI fitting a new central heating system for example.

Mr Penguin

2,712 posts

46 months

Sunday 2nd April 2023
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People always think these things will cause mass unemployment and they never do. When the pattern is pointed out, it always seems to be different this time.

One job family it cannot replace is those jobs where the human voice is important for quality purposes - which is anything from waiters to psychiatrists.

starsky67

526 posts

20 months

Monday 3rd April 2023
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I would question how much of what humans do is genuinely creative and how much just appears to be so.

If our thoughts are the sum of our experiences then why shouldn’t an AI with sufficiently broad experience also demonstrate creativity?

Some of the models certainly appear to create new ideas taken at face value.

Look at this story written by GPT-4 (albeit with some prompting), is it not creative? It’s certainly unexpected. The plot twist appears to show genuine artistic creativity.

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