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Not a motoring thread... but I feel like over the last 20-odd years the amount of time you spend at work has been increasing at request of the employers. A standard day for me would be 9am to 5pm. But I've seen this creeping to things like 8:45am to 6pm and all kinds of weird notions where the working day is getting longer bit-by-bit.
Also what happened to the lunch 'hour'
Anyone seen the new 30 minute break?
Also what happened to the lunch 'hour'
Anyone seen the new 30 minute break?
7:30am or latest 8am, but finish usually by 4:30, I don't mind finishing later, but it can be a pain to pick my wife up at 5pm. Although I do the odd bit outside those hours to help out being a small team.
WFH has it benefits there and means I spend lunch either walking or playing with the dog usually.
WFH has it benefits there and means I spend lunch either walking or playing with the dog usually.
sunnyb13 said:
work in consulting; log in around 7:30am don't finish up until late evening 9/10pm.
Lunch is non existent as "working lunches" exist sadly.
I'd only expect those sort of hours at MD / Partner level? As a Senior Manager working in banks, I've always worked roughly 09:00 - 18:00. Sure I've done the odd 10pm finish, but I can count those on one hand. If you're routinely working those hours, whoever's drafted the SoW has obviously under resourced the project by around 50%...Lunch is non existent as "working lunches" exist sadly.
if I'm WFH [i.e. no commute] I may log in before 8 and off at dead on 5 with no real set-aside 1 hour break, but may take smaller breaks during the day [picking up children from school etc] that always equate to less than the hour; If I'm in the office [thats an hour away] it'll be 9-5 with the full hour break
Krikkit said:
sunnyb13 said:
work in consulting; log in around 7:30am don't finish up until late evening 9/10pm.
Lunch is non existent as "working lunches" exist sadly.
Work smarter not longer, sounds like inefficient working.Lunch is non existent as "working lunches" exist sadly.
They then dump 80%of their staff when they've broken them.
Generally what that means is, only the psychotic s make partner, and the cycle continues
jeremyh1 said:
I work longer hours than any of you as I have always run my own business
I am happy about that as the one thing I would not like is being controlled by somebody else
I don't know how you do it
From my point of view, it means that someone else does all the accounting, the tax, the HR stuff, the grubby installation work, and all the other thing I don't want to do or am crap at.I am happy about that as the one thing I would not like is being controlled by somebody else
I don't know how you do it
I get paid to just do the bits I'm good at and like. And I get paid holidays and sick leave and a pension and private health. And they pay for my glasses and phone.
My contracted hours are 08:30 to 17:30. I generally work 08:20ish to 17:30. I have twenty minutes or so for lunch, and an afternoon walk of 30-40 minutes.
I did 30 years in Banking. Prior to Covid in London anyone who wanted to get any recognition, financial and career was in by 7.45 and certainly not out before 8 pm .
When it came to calibration, a bad phrase meaning comparisons to your peers it was an absolute certainty if you came in at 9 and went at 5 you might as well forget bankers bonuses etc .
I did it for years ,the hours bankers work in or out the office are huge .
Evenings with Blackberry and weekends .
I retired last year at 56, I was old to do that . Many had got out before me .
When it came to calibration, a bad phrase meaning comparisons to your peers it was an absolute certainty if you came in at 9 and went at 5 you might as well forget bankers bonuses etc .
I did it for years ,the hours bankers work in or out the office are huge .
Evenings with Blackberry and weekends .
I retired last year at 56, I was old to do that . Many had got out before me .
cliffords said:
I did 30 years in Banking. Prior to Covid in London anyone who wanted to get any recognition, financial and career was in by 7.45 and certainly not out before 8 pm .
On my course at uni, the two most popular career paths were to continue in a scientific field or to go into high finance... The tools acquired by a physics undergrad are surprisingly useful in market prediction and I remember some people became "quants".I was looking to follow that second path until I caught up with a mate who was 2 years ahead of me; he had gone into banking (I don't remember what field, but one of the big firms) and on some weeks had worked 110 hours to keep on top of things. He was earning a lot, but never had any time to spend it! I rethought my priorities then.
donkmeister said:
On my course at uni, the two most popular career paths were to continue in a scientific field or to go into high finance... The tools acquired by a physics undergrad are surprisingly useful in market prediction and I remember some people became "quants".
I was looking to follow that second path until I caught up with a mate who was 2 years ahead of me; he had gone into banking (I don't remember what field, but one of the big firms) and on some weeks had worked 110 hours to keep on top of things. He was earning a lot, but never had any time to spend it! I rethought my priorities then.
Yeah, not sure it worth losing every morning and evening to get the mega cash. Maybe for some, but you're giving up so much time.I was looking to follow that second path until I caught up with a mate who was 2 years ahead of me; he had gone into banking (I don't remember what field, but one of the big firms) and on some weeks had worked 110 hours to keep on top of things. He was earning a lot, but never had any time to spend it! I rethought my priorities then.
I recently changed industries and took a much more junior job, work less hours, get paid half as much but love the work I do, never been happier with work.
All this 12+ hours a day, 6 days a week is madness. No wonder so many ate people are so damn miserable.
Obviously some people don't always have a choice, or maybe they live their work. But if you are choosing to do that to sustain some sort of lifestyle (expensive house, cars etc) you should probably change your lifestyle.
All this 12+ hours a day, 6 days a week is madness. No wonder so many ate people are so damn miserable.
Obviously some people don't always have a choice, or maybe they live their work. But if you are choosing to do that to sustain some sort of lifestyle (expensive house, cars etc) you should probably change your lifestyle.
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