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ingenieur

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4,221 posts

188 months

Friday 3rd March 2023
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Not a motoring thread... but I feel like over the last 20-odd years the amount of time you spend at work has been increasing at request of the employers. A standard day for me would be 9am to 5pm. But I've seen this creeping to things like 8:45am to 6pm and all kinds of weird notions where the working day is getting longer bit-by-bit.

Also what happened to the lunch 'hour'

Anyone seen the new 30 minute break?


InitialDave

12,236 posts

126 months

Friday 3rd March 2023
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I'm in engineering, and 30 minutes has always been the standard I'm used to for a lunch break.

I prefer it to an hour. It would just mean going home half an hour later.

ingenieur

Original Poster:

4,221 posts

188 months

Friday 3rd March 2023
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InitialDave said:
I'm in engineering, and 30 minutes has always been the standard I'm used to for a lunch break.

I prefer it to an hour. It would just mean going home half an hour later.
I seem to remember 'normal' was 9am to 5pm with 1 hour lunch.

Catnip64

143 posts

106 months

Friday 3rd March 2023
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Quite a few employers now looking at flexible working hours so start and end time vary considerably to accommodate requirements. Also 4 day weeks are a lot more popular now.

sunnyb13

1,039 posts

45 months

Friday 3rd March 2023
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work in consulting; log in around 7:30am don't finish up until late evening 9/10pm.

Lunch is non existent as "working lunches" exist sadly.

boyse7en

7,115 posts

172 months

Friday 3rd March 2023
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sunnyb13 said:
work in consulting; log in around 7:30am don't finish up until late evening 9/10pm.

Lunch is non existent as "working lunches" exist sadly.
That's not living

J2daG1990

1,205 posts

133 months

Friday 3rd March 2023
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sunnyb13 said:
work in consulting; log in around 7:30am don't finish up until late evening 9/10pm.

Lunch is non existent as "working lunches" exist sadly.
you need to find a new job. You're living to work.

Ninja59

3,691 posts

119 months

Friday 3rd March 2023
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7:30am or latest 8am, but finish usually by 4:30, I don't mind finishing later, but it can be a pain to pick my wife up at 5pm. Although I do the odd bit outside those hours to help out being a small team.

WFH has it benefits there and means I spend lunch either walking or playing with the dog usually.

wiffmaster

2,608 posts

205 months

Friday 3rd March 2023
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sunnyb13 said:
work in consulting; log in around 7:30am don't finish up until late evening 9/10pm.

Lunch is non existent as "working lunches" exist sadly.
I'd only expect those sort of hours at MD / Partner level? As a Senior Manager working in banks, I've always worked roughly 09:00 - 18:00. Sure I've done the odd 10pm finish, but I can count those on one hand. If you're routinely working those hours, whoever's drafted the SoW has obviously under resourced the project by around 50%...

Krikkit

26,997 posts

188 months

Friday 3rd March 2023
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sunnyb13 said:
work in consulting; log in around 7:30am don't finish up until late evening 9/10pm.

Lunch is non existent as "working lunches" exist sadly.
Work smarter not longer, sounds like inefficient working.

hurstg01

3,004 posts

250 months

Friday 3rd March 2023
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if I'm WFH [i.e. no commute] I may log in before 8 and off at dead on 5 with no real set-aside 1 hour break, but may take smaller breaks during the day [picking up children from school etc] that always equate to less than the hour; If I'm in the office [thats an hour away] it'll be 9-5 with the full hour break

sociopath

3,433 posts

73 months

Friday 3rd March 2023
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Krikkit said:
sunnyb13 said:
work in consulting; log in around 7:30am don't finish up until late evening 9/10pm.

Lunch is non existent as "working lunches" exist sadly.
Work smarter not longer, sounds like inefficient working.
The big consultancies con their junior staff to believe this is normal if they want to make partner, whereas its really a way of maximising their own bonuses.
They then dump 80%of their staff when they've broken them.
Generally what that means is, only the psychotic s make partner, and the cycle continues

jeremyh1

1,413 posts

134 months

Friday 3rd March 2023
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I work longer hours than any of you as I have always run my own business

I am happy about that as the one thing I would not like is being controlled by somebody else

I don't know how you do it

fooman

227 posts

71 months

Friday 3rd March 2023
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I have a saying, I might sometimes start late, but I always make sure I finish early! Work pretty much non stop in between.

Sporky

7,296 posts

71 months

Friday 3rd March 2023
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jeremyh1 said:
I work longer hours than any of you as I have always run my own business

I am happy about that as the one thing I would not like is being controlled by somebody else

I don't know how you do it
From my point of view, it means that someone else does all the accounting, the tax, the HR stuff, the grubby installation work, and all the other thing I don't want to do or am crap at.

I get paid to just do the bits I'm good at and like. And I get paid holidays and sick leave and a pension and private health. And they pay for my glasses and phone.

My contracted hours are 08:30 to 17:30. I generally work 08:20ish to 17:30. I have twenty minutes or so for lunch, and an afternoon walk of 30-40 minutes.

cliffords

1,824 posts

30 months

Friday 3rd March 2023
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I did 30 years in Banking. Prior to Covid in London anyone who wanted to get any recognition, financial and career was in by 7.45 and certainly not out before 8 pm .

When it came to calibration, a bad phrase meaning comparisons to your peers it was an absolute certainty if you came in at 9 and went at 5 you might as well forget bankers bonuses etc .

I did it for years ,the hours bankers work in or out the office are huge .
Evenings with Blackberry and weekends .

I retired last year at 56, I was old to do that . Many had got out before me .

donkmeister

9,249 posts

107 months

Friday 3rd March 2023
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cliffords said:
I did 30 years in Banking. Prior to Covid in London anyone who wanted to get any recognition, financial and career was in by 7.45 and certainly not out before 8 pm .
On my course at uni, the two most popular career paths were to continue in a scientific field or to go into high finance... The tools acquired by a physics undergrad are surprisingly useful in market prediction and I remember some people became "quants".

I was looking to follow that second path until I caught up with a mate who was 2 years ahead of me; he had gone into banking (I don't remember what field, but one of the big firms) and on some weeks had worked 110 hours to keep on top of things. He was earning a lot, but never had any time to spend it! I rethought my priorities then.

jm8403

2,515 posts

32 months

Friday 3rd March 2023
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donkmeister said:
On my course at uni, the two most popular career paths were to continue in a scientific field or to go into high finance... The tools acquired by a physics undergrad are surprisingly useful in market prediction and I remember some people became "quants".

I was looking to follow that second path until I caught up with a mate who was 2 years ahead of me; he had gone into banking (I don't remember what field, but one of the big firms) and on some weeks had worked 110 hours to keep on top of things. He was earning a lot, but never had any time to spend it! I rethought my priorities then.
Yeah, not sure it worth losing every morning and evening to get the mega cash. Maybe for some, but you're giving up so much time.

Silvanus

6,052 posts

30 months

Friday 3rd March 2023
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I recently changed industries and took a much more junior job, work less hours, get paid half as much but love the work I do, never been happier with work.

All this 12+ hours a day, 6 days a week is madness. No wonder so many ate people are so damn miserable.

Obviously some people don't always have a choice, or maybe they live their work. But if you are choosing to do that to sustain some sort of lifestyle (expensive house, cars etc) you should probably change your lifestyle.

Zarco

18,494 posts

216 months

Friday 3rd March 2023
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I've generally done 7:00 to 17:30 for the last 10yrs or so. Rarely take more than 30min for lunch. Even get to work Saturdays too.