ULEZ - has your company given you a pay increase?

ULEZ - has your company given you a pay increase?

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mattvanders

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285 posts

33 months

Tuesday 21st February 2023
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For anyone London based, with the expansion of it to the whole of the inner M25, has anyone had their company give a bonus or pay increase to cover the extra cost? I know it only affect non ULEZ complaints cars so some people may actually get a pay rise out of it

Scrump

22,940 posts

165 months

Tuesday 21st February 2023
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Not just London, CAZs (effectively same as ULEZ) have been introduced in a number of UK cities.
London commuters have more public transport options than commuters in most other cities.

To answer your question: no.

The Leaper

5,165 posts

213 months

Tuesday 21st February 2023
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I am not in favour of the ULEZ, particularly the way it is being expanded and introduced, but surely your question is against the spirt of ULEZ. A compensating pay rise will do nothing to persuade people to change their vehicles or travelling habits.

R.

mattvanders

Original Poster:

285 posts

33 months

Tuesday 21st February 2023
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Scrump said:
Not just London, CAZs (effectively same as ULEZ) have been introduced in a number of UK cities.
London commuters have more public transport options than commuters in most other cities.

To answer your question: no.
Yep, very aware that Bath, Bristol, Birmingham, Portsmouth, Newcastle, Sheffield, Manchester and Bradford are all CAZ or is being looked into with family dotted around. I only expect more places to become them. As far as I can see these are £9 a day where London will be £12.5

vaud

52,395 posts

162 months

Tuesday 21st February 2023
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mattvanders said:
Yep, very aware that Bath, Bristol, Birmingham, Portsmouth, Newcastle, Sheffield, Manchester and Bradford are all CAZ or is being looked into with family dotted around. I only expect more places to become them. As far as I can see these are £9 a day where London will be £12.5
Bradford CAZ doesn't apply to cars.

Gary C

13,171 posts

186 months

Tuesday 21st February 2023
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vaud said:
mattvanders said:
Yep, very aware that Bath, Bristol, Birmingham, Portsmouth, Newcastle, Sheffield, Manchester and Bradford are all CAZ or is being looked into with family dotted around. I only expect more places to become them. As far as I can see these are £9 a day where London will be £12.5
Bradford CAZ doesn't apply to cars.
and Manchester's has been delayed to 2026 and doesn't apply to private cars (so says the proposal)

mattvanders

Original Poster:

285 posts

33 months

Tuesday 21st February 2023
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The Leaper said:
I am not in favour of the ULEZ, particularly the way it is being expanded and introduced, but surely your question is against the spirt of ULEZ. A compensating pay rise will do nothing to persuade people to change their vehicles or travelling habits.

R.
Agree that if there a pay rise then your unlikely to change a vehicle. I’m in a position that my current job and house is outside the ULEZ area, have had interview and job offer at a company within the new are when it comes in to effect. I have a non compliance vehicle and because there isn’t a pay difference or extra to cover the charge i’m probably going to turn the offer down. My job is quiet specialist so know in my current role it took them almost a year to fill. Even this new company has had the job offer up for currently over 9 months. Options for easily traveling by public transport are there but equally not very cost effective or more importantly time effect compared to driving. How many people are going to not take a role based on the extra cost involved or even change job if there current car is not compliant but can’t or done want to change the vehicle.

Countdown

42,051 posts

203 months

Tuesday 21st February 2023
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We're paying it to people if they have to visit a site that's within a CAZ/ULEZ/CC unless it's their main (normal) office.

We're not paying it to all staff primarily because all of our offices are well served by Public Transport.

ChocolateFrog

28,667 posts

180 months

Tuesday 21st February 2023
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Gary C said:
vaud said:
mattvanders said:
Yep, very aware that Bath, Bristol, Birmingham, Portsmouth, Newcastle, Sheffield, Manchester and Bradford are all CAZ or is being looked into with family dotted around. I only expect more places to become them. As far as I can see these are £9 a day where London will be £12.5
Bradford CAZ doesn't apply to cars.
and Manchester's has been delayed to 2026 and doesn't apply to private cars (so says the proposal)
The same as Sheffield's which starts next week.

It will include private cars though in time, you can bet your life on it.

TwigtheWonderkid

44,678 posts

157 months

Wednesday 22nd February 2023
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mattvanders said:
For anyone London based, with the expansion of it to the whole of the inner M25,
Who told you that nonsense?

It's being expanded to cover all the London Boroughs. There are large areas inside the M25 not covered by ULEZ. In fact, about 800K people live inside the M25 but outside London. There's a small area to the East that's outside the M25 but inside London and will be in the expanded ULEZ zone.

mattvanders

Original Poster:

285 posts

33 months

Thursday 23rd February 2023
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Sorry, I realise it’s not to the fall width of the m25, the only reason I say the how of the m25 is because it come that far out near to me (Essex way) compared to other areas

edc

9,315 posts

258 months

Friday 24th February 2023
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mattvanders said:
The Leaper said:
I am not in favour of the ULEZ, particularly the way it is being expanded and introduced, but surely your question is against the spirt of ULEZ. A compensating pay rise will do nothing to persuade people to change their vehicles or travelling habits.

R.
Agree that if there a pay rise then your unlikely to change a vehicle. I’m in a position that my current job and house is outside the ULEZ area, have had interview and job offer at a company within the new are when it comes in to effect. I have a non compliance vehicle and because there isn’t a pay difference or extra to cover the charge i’m probably going to turn the offer down. My job is quiet specialist so know in my current role it took them almost a year to fill. Even this new company has had the job offer up for currently over 9 months. Options for easily traveling by public transport are there but equally not very cost effective or more importantly time effect compared to driving. How many people are going to not take a role based on the extra cost involved or even change job if there current car is not compliant but can’t or done want to change the vehicle.
If the money and offer is right, do you want the job?
If so negotiate.

gt_12345

1,873 posts

42 months

Friday 24th February 2023
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The Leaper said:
I am not in favour of the ULEZ, particularly the way it is being expanded and introduced, but surely your question is against the spirt of ULEZ. A compensating pay rise will do nothing to persuade people to change their vehicles or travelling habits.

R.
Funny how those introducing ULEZ don't mind more people entering the country.

Surely if they care about pollution/environment, then population control is the first thing?

ULEZ has nothing to do with pollution, it's socialist restriction of freedom.

The Leaper

5,165 posts

213 months

Friday 24th February 2023
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gt_12345 said:
The Leaper said:
I am not in favour of the ULEZ, particularly the way it is being expanded and introduced, but surely your question is against the spirt of ULEZ. A compensating pay rise will do nothing to persuade people to change their vehicles or travelling habits.

R.
Funny how those introducing ULEZ don't mind more people entering the country.

Surely if they care about pollution/environment, then population control is the first thing?

ULEZ has nothing to do with pollution, it's socialist restriction of freedom.
A good observation!

I see that Khan has applied to the government for another £100m of funding, apparently to cover further costs of ULEZ installation....not surprised he's been told where to go. What's he doing with all the money coming in from the CZ and the ULEZ already has to be asked, surely.

R.

Condi

17,956 posts

178 months

Sunday 26th February 2023
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Any petrol car from about 2006 is ULEZ compliant, and there are plenty for sale for less than £1000. It's an inconvenience, but considerably less than many people pay for a season train ticket, or even a monthly train ticket!