Advice on what happens to my wife

Advice on what happens to my wife

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tr7v8

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7,306 posts

235 months

Friday 3rd February 2023
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My wife works for company (A) who employ her working out of another companies (B) premises. Last Sept she was told that company A had transferred her to a new company (C).
After a few false starts of where they were moving her to as company C need to move from Companies B premises, they have now made a decision, they'll be moving to a new office which is around 25 miles from Companies B. This will mean a 50 mile round trip 2 days a week, in the south that will probably be a 40-50 minute drive each way.

Also they were told they'd be TUPE'd over from Company A to Company C 10th Feb. But they just announced that they won't be moving until 6th March & they either need to take leave for the intervening period or be unpaid a she'll be off of Company A books.

My knowledge of TUPE is a bit sketchy, so looking for someone more knowledgeable on here.

simon_harris

1,788 posts

41 months

Friday 3rd February 2023
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The type bit does not sound legal to me

surveyor

18,141 posts

191 months

Friday 3rd February 2023
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This is probably best moved to employment and jobs

Jockman

18,001 posts

167 months

Friday 3rd February 2023
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If you get rid of the wife your life would become less complicated.

Muzzer79

11,060 posts

194 months

Friday 3rd February 2023
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tr7v8 said:
My wife works for company (A) who employ her working out of another companies (B) premises. Last Sept she was told that company A had transferred her to a new company (C).
After a few false starts of where they were moving her to as company C need to move from Companies B premises, they have now made a decision, they'll be moving to a new office which is around 25 miles from Companies B. This will mean a 50 mile round trip 2 days a week, in the south that will probably be a 40-50 minute drive each way.

Also they were told they'd be TUPE'd over from Company A to Company C 10th Feb. But they just announced that they won't be moving until 6th March & they either need to take leave for the intervening period or be unpaid a she'll be off of Company A books.

My knowledge of TUPE is a bit sketchy, so looking for someone more knowledgeable on here.
If she TUPEs on 10th Feb, that’s her start date in the new company.

They (company C) can’t delay that or not pay her until they’re ready. They (company C) can impose holiday with 4 weeks notice, but that’s a little sketchy.
They certainly can’t enforce it unpaid, unless she’s on zero hours contract.

She can refuse to TUPE to company C if the commute is too long, but that’s effectively forcing her own redundancy. That may be a good thing or not, depending on your viewpoint.

jammy-git

29,778 posts

219 months

Sunday 5th February 2023
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Not an employment expert, but I believe TUPE has to be continuous employment.

How long has she worked for Company A?

vaud

52,395 posts

162 months

Sunday 5th February 2023
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A free call to ACAS might be worth a try...

tr7v8

Original Poster:

7,306 posts

235 months

Monday 6th February 2023
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jammy-git said:
Not an employment expert, but I believe TUPE has to be continuous employment.

How long has she worked for Company A?
Technically since 1997 but the dozy HR team only reckon its since 2013!

jammy-git

29,778 posts

219 months

Monday 6th February 2023
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tr7v8 said:
jammy-git said:
Not an employment expert, but I believe TUPE has to be continuous employment.

How long has she worked for Company A?
Technically since 1997 but the dozy HR team only reckon its since 2013!
vaud said:
A free call to ACAS might be worth a try...
I would follow this advice, maybe even find an employment solicitor to talk to. And start digging out any contracts and communication that strengthens your wife's case.

simon_harris

1,788 posts

41 months

Monday 6th February 2023
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Make sure she has hard copies of all communications, it would probably be a good idea to start keeping a diary and ensuring that she has contemporaneous notes of any discussion that is had around the subject and other interactions with HR and the management team.

This sounds like a constructive dismissal in the making, the company certainly seem to be playing fast and loose with employment law.

Ronstein

1,441 posts

44 months

Monday 6th February 2023
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Also worth noting (in case it comes to it) that many home insirance policies include legal cover for employment issues.

deja.vu

456 posts

23 months

Monday 6th February 2023
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tr7v8 said:
jammy-git said:
Not an employment expert, but I believe TUPE has to be continuous employment.

How long has she worked for Company A?
Technically since 1997 but the dozy HR team only reckon its since 2013!
You say " technically", that would imply it's not quite black and white.
is there a back story there?

tr7v8

Original Poster:

7,306 posts

235 months

Monday 6th February 2023
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deja.vu said:
tr7v8 said:
jammy-git said:
Not an employment expert, but I believe TUPE has to be continuous employment.

How long has she worked for Company A?
Technically since 1997 but the dozy HR team only reckon its since 2013!
You say " technically", that would imply it's not quite black and white.
is there a back story there?
Nothing sinister or complicated. Its because she works on behalf of one company but in the premises & pay regime of another. She was originally part time so that may have affected it. We're not sure why.