Commercial Balloon Pilot

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TT1138

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740 posts

141 months

Sunday 23rd October 2022
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Bit of a long shot but are there any on here?

In a total rut career-wise and looking for a complete change of job/scene. Any pointers/ useful advice would be much appreciated.

dudleybloke

20,477 posts

193 months

Sunday 23rd October 2022
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It's got its ups and downs.

darreni

3,999 posts

277 months

Sunday 23rd October 2022
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It could take you anywhere though.

Kwackersaki

1,450 posts

235 months

Monday 24th October 2022
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I have a mate that does this. He reckons it’s a great job but he’s full of hot air.

LimaDelta

6,950 posts

225 months

Monday 24th October 2022
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I was considering this, but felt very let down after the school went bust.

fridaypassion

9,397 posts

235 months

Monday 24th October 2022
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I used to do ground crew when I was younger you do actually need a pilots license don't know if you were aware of that?

You'll be a private pilot first to get a paid number you'll need to get out and about and make some contacts. A few of the bigger sponsors have retainers even for ground crew. My Pal did virgin red letter days for years as ground crew after he retired.

It's really interesting certainly when you get with a sponsored balloon there are all sorts of events they go to often not flying just tethering. Bristol balloon fiesta is the biggest event in the UK and we'll worth a visit I remember doing the night glows there it was always good fun. Getting chased off farmland not so much!

R56Cooper

2,505 posts

230 months

Monday 24th October 2022
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I did it for a few years but moved on. Felt I was drifting along with no sense of direction. HTH.

TT1138

Original Poster:

740 posts

141 months

Monday 24th October 2022
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fridaypassion said:
I used to do ground crew when I was younger you do actually need a pilots license don't know if you were aware of that?

You'll be a private pilot first to get a paid number you'll need to get out and about and make some contacts. A few of the bigger sponsors have retainers even for ground crew. My Pal did virgin red letter days for years as ground crew after he retired.

It's really interesting certainly when you get with a sponsored balloon there are all sorts of events they go to often not flying just tethering. Bristol balloon fiesta is the biggest event in the UK and we'll worth a visit I remember doing the night glows there it was always good fun. Getting chased off farmland not so much!
Thank you. Yes I was aware, was just on the off chance that any PHers were pilots themselves. I was lucky enough to have a decent chat with a Canadian pilot about it all, but obviously he couldn’t recommend any UK schools or schemes to get licensed.

I also should have expected most of the replies given laugh

valiant

11,358 posts

167 months

Tuesday 25th October 2022
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TT1138 said:
fridaypassion said:
I used to do ground crew when I was younger you do actually need a pilots license don't know if you were aware of that?

You'll be a private pilot first to get a paid number you'll need to get out and about and make some contacts. A few of the bigger sponsors have retainers even for ground crew. My Pal did virgin red letter days for years as ground crew after he retired.

It's really interesting certainly when you get with a sponsored balloon there are all sorts of events they go to often not flying just tethering. Bristol balloon fiesta is the biggest event in the UK and we'll worth a visit I remember doing the night glows there it was always good fun. Getting chased off farmland not so much!
Thank you. Yes I was aware, was just on the off chance that any PHers were pilots themselves. I was lucky enough to have a decent chat with a Canadian pilot about it all, but obviously he couldn’t recommend any UK schools or schemes to get licensed.

I also should have expected most of the replies given laugh
Well, that’s a bit of a letdown…

Monkeylegend

27,210 posts

238 months

Tuesday 25th October 2022
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If you get your licence you an actually lease the equipment to get you up and drifting.

Just be aware there will be a balloon payment at the end of the term.

bristolbaron

5,088 posts

219 months

Tuesday 25th October 2022
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darreni said:
It could take you anywhere though.
The sky’s the limit.

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283 posts

67 months

Tuesday 25th October 2022
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I used to be a commercial balloon pilot. Gave it up probably 14 years ago. Did it part time for 15+ years, had my own ride operation for a while.

It's a very niche business. Most pilots get in to it through flying for fun then going commercial.

There are / were two primary activities - flying advertising / PR balloons and doing balloon rides. The straight advertising / PR activity is a fraction of what it was in its heyday back in the 90s / early 2000s. The balloon ride industry has shrunk massively too - there used to be over 100 operators, there are many fewer than that now.

For a while now it has been difficult to reconcile very visibly burning significant amounts of fossil fuel with current "green" aspirations - its one of the reasons why the corporate / PR / advertising thing went down the pan as it didn't sit comfortably with corporate green agendas.

In the UK you will do almost all of your work April through to October. We always used to be very impressed by pilots who managed to do more than 100 flights per year. A lot of "full timers" did other things to fill in the gaps. There are sometimes some good gigs abroad during the winter months (Burma used to be a popular place to go) but those tend to fizzle out after a few years as cheaper local pilots are trained to replace the expats.

You can buy a balloon ride today for less than I was charging 15 years ago. I really don't know how that works .....

Your best way in would be to talk to a local balloon operator and see if you can get a part time job as ground crew. Find out how the business works and see whether it is for you. Join the British Balloon and Airship Club - I think they still do a monthly magazine.



Edited by this is my username on Tuesday 25th October 09:13

Tom8

3,065 posts

161 months

Tuesday 25th October 2022
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I did it for a while but wasn't that great and I left deflated.

Mercdriver

2,639 posts

40 months

Tuesday 25th October 2022
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I think the rating to be a commercial pilot on balloons is the same as for fixed wing so why spend all that money for a job that is seasonal and probably does not pay as well as commercial flying for airlines?

President Merkin

4,297 posts

26 months

Tuesday 25th October 2022
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Isn't there a lot of early morning & late afternoon working too? All that getting in before the wind gets going/after it packs up so you have a vague chance of heading in the direction you want? Not sure I'd want a job that has me up at 4am, nothing all day & off again at tea time.

LimaDelta

6,950 posts

225 months

Tuesday 25th October 2022
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Mercdriver said:
I think the rating to be a commercial pilot on balloons is the same as for fixed wing so why spend all that money for a job that is seasonal and probably does not pay as well as commercial flying for airlines?
A CPL(B) is not the same as an ATPL. Still expensive, but not quite the same level.

this is my username

283 posts

67 months

Tuesday 25th October 2022
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Some links for you:

BBAC:
https://bbac.org/

BABO:
https://www.commercialballooning.org.uk/

UK CAA list of balloon ride operators (used to be over 100 back in the day, just 26 now):
https://www.caa.co.uk/media/0gld0b5q/20220712dbo-l...

Some info from the CAA:
https://www.caa.co.uk/Commercial-industry/Aircraft...

this is my username

283 posts

67 months

Tuesday 25th October 2022
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A CPL(B) is nothing like a CPL/IR/ME with ATPL theory (which is what you need for the airlines)

TT1138

Original Poster:

740 posts

141 months

Tuesday 25th October 2022
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Thank you all. Some helpful comments and decent puns. Doesn’t look like it’s a good idea then unfortunately so back to pondering on what to do. I’d love to fly fixed wing aircraft but the staggering training cost and lack of a guaranteed job at the end make it a somewhat difficult prospect.

Tom8

3,065 posts

161 months

Tuesday 25th October 2022
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TT1138 said:
Thank you all. Some helpful comments and decent puns. Doesn’t look like it’s a good idea then unfortunately so back to pondering on what to do. I’d love to fly fixed wing aircraft but the staggering training cost and lack of a guaranteed job at the end make it a somewhat difficult prospect.
What about the military?