Break room facilities for office staff

Break room facilities for office staff

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clockworks

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6,146 posts

152 months

Thursday 29th September 2022
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Is there a legal requirement for an employer to provide a seating area away from desks for office staff?

My friend works for a large building contractor, in the accounts department. There are around 30 staff, and they currently have a small kitchen, but no seating.

It's a growing company, and they have just had planning approved for a new office building on a greenfield site. Much bigger building, and it even has a helipad for the directors. Still no rest room though.

pherlopolus

2,122 posts

165 months

Thursday 29th September 2022
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Don't know about legal other than the one about a break away from your normal workplace for x mins after working 6 hours.

Our H+S Advisor made a recommendation that we think about it, we have about 16 staff. We have Sofas in the (Heated) warehouse where people can sit on breaks/calls, but no breakroom facilities to sit and eat at. We have some plans (I already have a postmix machine with gun, we provide cans of pop - the post mix will save us a fortune.) but need to get Nov/Dec out of the way.

PF62

4,065 posts

180 months

Thursday 29th September 2022
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clockworks said:
Is there a legal requirement for an employer to provide a seating area away from desks for office staff?
HSE requires “somewhere to rest and eat meals” but doesn’t say this needs to be separate, so if the employer is happy for someone to sit at their desk eating some smelly food then that would suffice.

More of an issue is how the employer ensures that employees get an *uninterrupted* break whilst sat at their desk and are not bothered by others with ‘something that will just take a minute’.

So perhaps at lunchtime your friend should start eating pilchard and egg curry at their desk, whilst wearing noise cancelling headphones and a sign propped up saying ‘don’t bother me at lunch’.

clockworks

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6,146 posts

152 months

Friday 30th September 2022
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That's pretty much how I understood it - somewhere safe and clean to sit, so an office desk is OK, but a factory workstation wouldn't be.

She's convinced that a dedicated restroom is required.

Collectingbrass

2,393 posts

202 months

Friday 30th September 2022
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clockworks said:
That's pretty much how I understood it - somewhere safe and clean to sit, so an office desk is OK, but a factory workstation wouldn't be.

She's convinced that a dedicated restroom is required.
You get what you pay for, which in this case

clockworks said:
It's a growing company, and they have just had planning approved for a new office building on a greenfield site. Much bigger building, and it even has a helipad for the directors. Still no rest room though.
will be zero loyalty, quiet quitting and peanut paid monkeys. This stuff isn't hard, but people get it wrong time and again

55palfers

6,006 posts

171 months

Friday 30th September 2022
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This will tell you all you need to know.

https://www.hse.gov.uk/pubns/indg244.pdf


clockworks

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Friday 30th September 2022
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Collectingbrass said:
clockworks said:
That's pretty much how I understood it - somewhere safe and clean to sit, so an office desk is OK, but a factory workstation wouldn't be.

She's convinced that a dedicated restroom is required.
You get what you pay for, which in this case

clockworks said:
It's a growing company, and they have just had planning approved for a new office building on a greenfield site. Much bigger building, and it even has a helipad for the directors. Still no rest room though.
will be zero loyalty, quiet quitting and peanut paid monkeys. This stuff isn't hard, but people get it wrong time and again
They do pay very well for the area, so I don't think money is the issue with not providing staff facilities. More like "we've always done it that way". There isn't the space in the current building.

Doofus

28,473 posts

180 months

Friday 30th September 2022
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pherlopolus said:
We have some plans (I already have a postmix machine with gun, we provide cans of pop - the post mix will save us a fortune.) but need to get Nov/Dec out of the way.
I've read this several times and I'm confused. Does 'postmix' mean something different to you? If not, the cans of pop bit seems a bit of a non sequiteur.

Genuinely puzzled. smile

R56Cooper

2,505 posts

230 months

Friday 30th September 2022
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Doofus said:
pherlopolus said:
We have some plans (I already have a postmix machine with gun, we provide cans of pop - the post mix will save us a fortune.) but need to get Nov/Dec out of the way.
I've read this several times and I'm confused. Does 'postmix' mean something different to you? If not, the cans of pop bit seems a bit of a non sequiteur.

Genuinely puzzled. smile
I read it as "I currently provide my staff with cans of pop. I own a postmix machine however and in January, will be taking it to work for the staff to use. I'll save a fortune!"

Doofus

28,473 posts

180 months

Friday 30th September 2022
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R56Cooper said:
Doofus said:
pherlopolus said:
We have some plans (I already have a postmix machine with gun, we provide cans of pop - the post mix will save us a fortune.) but need to get Nov/Dec out of the way.
I've read this several times and I'm confused. Does 'postmix' mean something different to you? If not, the cans of pop bit seems a bit of a non sequiteur.

Genuinely puzzled. smile
I read it as "I currently provide my staff with cans of pop. I own a postmix machine however and in January, will be taking it to work for the staff to use. I'll save a fortune!"
Well so did I, but postmix is concrete. confused

n3il123

2,674 posts

220 months

Friday 30th September 2022
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Doofus said:
Well so did I, but postmix is concrete. confused
If you're a builder, if however you're in hospitality it is a coke/ soft drink machine

Doofus

28,473 posts

180 months

Friday 30th September 2022
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n3il123 said:
Doofus said:
Well so did I, but postmix is concrete. confused
If you're a builder, if however you're in hospitality it is a coke/ soft drink machine
I'm neither, but thank you.

pherlopolus

2,122 posts

165 months

Friday 30th September 2022
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Doofus said:
I'm neither, but thank you.
It's a soft drinks machine like in a bar or restaurant (or mcdonalds!)

Prohibiting

1,761 posts

125 months

Friday 30th September 2022
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A helipad? Right.

mw88

1,457 posts

118 months

Friday 30th September 2022
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pherlopolus said:
I already have a postmix machine with gun, we provide cans of pop - the post mix will save us a fortune.
I'll give it a week before it stops being used as no one cleans it. hehe

pherlopolus

2,122 posts

165 months

Friday 30th September 2022
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I don't think that will be an issue, we already have a high maintenance bean to cup machine...