Quiet Quitting
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While browsing the internet, I am seeing an awful lot as of recent about 'quiet quitting'? I haven't bothered clicking on anything.
Sounds like nonsense to me, another movement of people with no ambition to suceed and life and coast by doing as little as possible.
Is just another flavour of the month like 'the great resignation'?
Sounds like nonsense to me, another movement of people with no ambition to suceed and life and coast by doing as little as possible.
Is just another flavour of the month like 'the great resignation'?
neil1jnr said:
While browsing the internet, I am seeing an awful lot as of recent about 'quiet quitting'? I haven't bothered clicking on anything.
Sounds like nonsense to me, another movement of people with no ambition to suceed and life and coast by doing as little as possible.
Is just another flavour of the month like 'the great resignation'?
Depends on your job. Why should people work constantly double their contracted hours for no extra pay? At the same time, it doesn't mean you won't do extra occasionally. I guess it mostly refers to salaried employees who feel tired of being taken for a ride. NL, Germany and Norway have a much much better work/life balance in corporates than UK, in my experience (ive worked with them all)Sounds like nonsense to me, another movement of people with no ambition to suceed and life and coast by doing as little as possible.
Is just another flavour of the month like 'the great resignation'?
Similar concept going around is: quiet sacking
neil1jnr said:
While browsing the internet, I am seeing an awful lot as of recent about 'quiet quitting'? I haven't bothered clicking on anything.
Sounds like nonsense to me, another movement of people with no ambition to suceed and life and coast by doing as little as possible.
Is just another flavour of the month like 'the great resignation'?
When I got promoted to director it was a ton more hassle with very little pay gain. With hindsight I would not do it.Sounds like nonsense to me, another movement of people with no ambition to suceed and life and coast by doing as little as possible.
Is just another flavour of the month like 'the great resignation'?
Who are the fools - those burning out on long hours or those taking it easy 9 to 5?
TX.
neil1jnr said:
Sounds like nonsense to me, another movement of people with no ambition to suceed and life and coast by doing as little as possible.
From what I can gather it's actually people wising up and not doing more than they're actually paid for, which is fair enough considering your employer wouldn't consider paying you for more than you actually do. Works both ways! The penny is finally dropping with people that that when they do more, the directors and shareholders get richer, not them. Almost three decades of employment have taught me that working harder does not equate to better rewards. Having the right connections and being liked be the right people does. You can't "hard work" your way out of not being one of the favourites.My OHs company expect you to do a certain amount of unpaid overtime.
As far as I can tell it isn't rewarded in any way, no bonus, no quick promotion etc.
We've got a 1 and 2 year old now and she works much closer to her actual paid hours.
They had to get someone else in to pick up the slack, who has since left because of the work environment.
We're all just a number to be exploited for the maximum amount while being reimbursed for as little as it's possible to get away with.
Much better in my unionised job ofcourse.
As far as I can tell it isn't rewarded in any way, no bonus, no quick promotion etc.
We've got a 1 and 2 year old now and she works much closer to her actual paid hours.
They had to get someone else in to pick up the slack, who has since left because of the work environment.
We're all just a number to be exploited for the maximum amount while being reimbursed for as little as it's possible to get away with.
Much better in my unionised job ofcourse.
ChocolateFrog said:
My OHs company expect you to do a certain amount of unpaid overtime.
As far as I can tell it isn't rewarded in any way, no bonus, no quick promotion etc.
We've got a 1 and 2 year old now and she works much closer to her actual paid hours.
They had to get someone else in to pick up the slack, who has since left because of the work environment.
We're all just a number to be exploited for the maximum amount while being reimbursed for as little as it's possible to get away with.
Much better in my unionised job ofcourse.
Well, that's the thing, some will get exploited then eventually get a little of it back if they get to VP/Director, if they just get to middle management, or no where, they pretty much got shafted for their time. As I said, Norway, NL and Germany have it much better in terms of promoting balance.As far as I can tell it isn't rewarded in any way, no bonus, no quick promotion etc.
We've got a 1 and 2 year old now and she works much closer to her actual paid hours.
They had to get someone else in to pick up the slack, who has since left because of the work environment.
We're all just a number to be exploited for the maximum amount while being reimbursed for as little as it's possible to get away with.
Much better in my unionised job ofcourse.
ChocolateFrog said:
My OHs company expect you to do a certain amount of unpaid overtime.
As far as I can tell it isn't rewarded in any way, no bonus, no quick promotion etc.
We've got a 1 and 2 year old now and she works much closer to her actual paid hours.
They had to get someone else in to pick up the slack, who has since left because of the work environment.
We're all just a number to be exploited for the maximum amount while being reimbursed for as little as it's possible to get away with.
Much better in my unionised job ofcourse.
Ah yes, you can pay out to a union to get another one who can tell you what you can or cannot do..........a big improvenent !!As far as I can tell it isn't rewarded in any way, no bonus, no quick promotion etc.
We've got a 1 and 2 year old now and she works much closer to her actual paid hours.
They had to get someone else in to pick up the slack, who has since left because of the work environment.
We're all just a number to be exploited for the maximum amount while being reimbursed for as little as it's possible to get away with.
Much better in my unionised job ofcourse.
neil1jnr said:
While browsing the internet, I am seeing an awful lot as of recent about 'quiet quitting'? I haven't bothered clicking on anything.
Sounds like nonsense to me, another movement of people with no ambition to suceed and life and coast by doing as little as possible.
Is just another flavour of the month like 'the great resignation'?
Lazy Gen Y / Z / millennials who have parental money to fall back on and who will in time come to realise you HAVE to put in the extra effort to get promoted and paid more.Sounds like nonsense to me, another movement of people with no ambition to suceed and life and coast by doing as little as possible.
Is just another flavour of the month like 'the great resignation'?
This realisation will come all the more quickly when they feel the effects of inflation and going backwards in real spending power each year.
I see the fad lasting until the recession hits, no longer.
klan8456 said:
Lazy Gen Y / Z / millennials who have parental money to fall back on and who will in time come to realise you HAVE to put in the extra effort to get promoted and paid more.
This realisation will come all the more quickly when they feel the effects of inflation and going backwards in real spending power each year.
I see the fad lasting until the recession hits, no longer.
Only in the UK and USA. The rest of the western world think we are mental. The view is changing, once people who are in 30's now become more senior, hopefully they will push a better balance.This realisation will come all the more quickly when they feel the effects of inflation and going backwards in real spending power each year.
I see the fad lasting until the recession hits, no longer.
Ham_and_Jam said:
Just another name for ‘work to rule’. Nothing new.
this is pretty much it. at my job one month i decided to do work at a 150% productivity. did I get anything for it? nope. don't see the point. so now i just stick to 100%also, i dont know why you'd want to work beyond your hours for nothing? seems bizarre to me. plenty of jobs and people who are out the door soon as it hits 5pm. so why stay longer? plenty of people (myself included) are happy to work a job where you go in, do your time, and switch off once you're out the office
ambuletz said:
this is pretty much it. at my job one month i decided to do work at a 150% productivity. did I get anything for it? nope. don't see the point. so now i just stick to 100%
also, i dont know why you'd want to work beyond your hours for nothing? seems bizarre to me. plenty of jobs and people who are out the door soon as it hits 5pm. so why stay longer? plenty of people (myself included) are happy to work a job where you go in, do your time, and switch off once you're out the office
One reason is companies try to incentivise you to do more with bonus. If you are 'top 10/15%' you might get a few grand more than someone 'doing their job well'. Obviously, the extra hours don't always mean you will get the extra / spot bonus, but certainly much more likely to get that role abroad (3 x net) or promotion.also, i dont know why you'd want to work beyond your hours for nothing? seems bizarre to me. plenty of jobs and people who are out the door soon as it hits 5pm. so why stay longer? plenty of people (myself included) are happy to work a job where you go in, do your time, and switch off once you're out the office
klan8456 said:
Lazy Gen Y / Z / millennials who have parental money to fall back on and who will in time come to realise you HAVE to put in the extra effort to get promoted and paid more.
This realisation will come all the more quickly when they feel the effects of inflation and going backwards in real spending power each year.
I see the fad lasting until the recession hits, no longer.
If your company has such a laissez-faire attitude to abiding by contracts, I certainly wouldn't want to be a customer of theirs!This realisation will come all the more quickly when they feel the effects of inflation and going backwards in real spending power each year.
I see the fad lasting until the recession hits, no longer.
ZedLeg said:
Aye, anyone who runs a business and says you have to put in extra hours to get ahead is just trying to make money at your expense.
This is true but payment is not always about money. I've had to put the extra hours and effort in to get promotions and opportunities which have been worth my while in the long-run. turbomoggie said:
This is true but payment is not always about money. I've had to put the extra hours and effort in to get promotions and opportunities which have been worth my while in the long-run.
That's great - I guess the point is: should having to put in LOADS extra be the norm to get on? What if it was about how you perform with the hours you are given (plus the odd hour here and there when necessary), but not some stupid amount that eats into your life.turbomoggie said:
This is true but payment is not always about money. I've had to put the extra hours and effort in to get promotions and opportunities which have been worth my while in the long-run.
Which shouldn’t need to be the case. People should be able to excel within their contracted hours enough to curry favour or prove their worth. Others will just coast and never progress, that’s their business. I’m not sure I really understand the extra effort bit, either you’re doing your job to the best of your ability or not.If employers require people to work beyond their contracted hours regularly then they don’t have enough staff or they’ve contracted them for too few hours to my mind.
It’s a trade off, isn’t it? I’ve worked on more than “just” what my role requires, and I’ve been promoted as a result. However, this extra work or responsibility is only worth taking on if it’s acknowledged and rewarded.
Certainly if I was going above and beyond for more than 1-2 years without any reward (having highlighted what I’m doing and having made my career expectations clear) I’d stop bothering and start looking for another job.
Certainly if I was going above and beyond for more than 1-2 years without any reward (having highlighted what I’m doing and having made my career expectations clear) I’d stop bothering and start looking for another job.
klan8456 said:
Lazy Gen Y / Z / millennials who have parental money to fall back on and who will in time come to realise you HAVE to put in the extra effort to get promoted and paid more.
This realisation will come all the more quickly when they feel the effects of inflation and going backwards in real spending power each year.
I see the fad lasting until the recession hits, no longer.
You've clearly never witnessed how quickly 55+ year olds can sprint to their cars at finishing time on Fridays!This realisation will come all the more quickly when they feel the effects of inflation and going backwards in real spending power each year.
I see the fad lasting until the recession hits, no longer.
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