Rail strike question

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DSLiverpool

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15,142 posts

209 months

Monday 20th June 2022
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Do the strikers get paid? If not can they take holiday days? Or do they lose wages for the days on strike?

I’ve not a clue

StevieBee

13,592 posts

262 months

Monday 20th June 2022
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AIUI.....Companies are not legally required to pay employees who strike whilst they are on strike. However, pay cannot be deducted if an employee was not scheduled to be at work (i.e. holiday) when on strike.

Unions sometimes pay a contribution to those who strike and attend pickets.

V8 Stang

4,402 posts

190 months

Monday 20th June 2022
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Should be sacked, and classed as AWOL IMO!


FiF

45,545 posts

258 months

Monday 20th June 2022
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The strikers will be paid an amount of strike pay for each day they're on strike. This is from union funds. I don't know the amount which it may not be much. Rule 22 suggests £1 per day.

Some unions do pay more, certainly two unions threatening strike action this summer, Unison and Unite have been reported as offering in the case of Unite £70 per day according to adverts it has posted, Unison £50 per day, tax free by the way.

Never having been on strike for a single hour never mind a whole day during my lifetime no personal experience of how it works in practice.

MickC

1,041 posts

265 months

Monday 20th June 2022
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When we had some strikes at our workplace (or maybe just threat of strike on defined days) they stopped anyone taking that day as holiday as soon as the strike was announced, and also said no working from home etc. Presumably to stop union members getting paid for those days unless they actually came in and went past the picket line and worked. If you already had those days booked off as leave, I assume they stayed like that unless you said you were on strike, in which case they were presumably cancelled and you got the leave days back but no pay for that day. I remember they did ask if we were intending to go on strike or work that day, but I got the impression they were not expecting an answer and could not force one, if the strike went ahead they would only know about it when you didn't turn up. I was not in the union anyway so was not allowed to strike officially, but i suspect had i refused to cross the picket line, and i cant remember even seeing one, they would not have paid me either.

Dingu

4,367 posts

37 months

Monday 20th June 2022
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V8 Stang said:
Should be sacked, and classed as AWOL IMO!
rolleyes

r44flyer

476 posts

223 months

Monday 20th June 2022
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V8 Stang said:
Should be sacked, and classed as AWOL IMO!
Yeah, of course...

They should at least take a pay cut, and another one next year...why not. And bus drivers as well, you wouldn't believe what some of them earn on overtime, at least 3 times the pay of an office cleaner. Don't get me started on nurses and teachers.... they should be grateful they've got a job in the current climate and should swallow it for another decade.

FiF

45,545 posts

258 months

Tuesday 21st June 2022
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What that Communist Lynch conveniently forgets is that this nation threw money at the railways during Covid, thus keeping the businesses afloat and running when there were pretty much no passengers. Furthermore they have a significant subsidy from the taxpayer.

There is a minor point that we're doing that and money is siphoned off into shareholder dividends, that is an unfortunate result of privatisation, which is something that I never agreed with, in particular the way it was done and structured. But then something had to be done to get a grip of British Rail.

I am absolutely convinced that this strike is ultimately politically motivated, driven by and funding from where not known, at least publicly. The battleground they have chosen may cause inconvenience and disruption, public sentiment will not be favourable.

r44flyer

476 posts

223 months

Tuesday 21st June 2022
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Government definitely has an interest in letting the strikes go ahead to stir public hatred to aid the pushing through of the reforms that we all know are on the horizon.

All the usual news outlets... first subheading under news of the strike going ahead - how much do they get paid? Cue much public disgust that they dare earn a penny more than a care worker.

I don't believe privatisation works particularly well on the railway but it will never be truly nationalised under the Tories. Wishing us back to the 'good old days' of British Rail is, however, farcical. I don't know what it might look like in 10 years but it's true the wheels are in motion to turn the industry on its head. Ultimate goal being cheaper operating costs for more profit to make it even more attractive in some kind of sell off, I would guess.