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Morning fellas.
By the title this should go to the jobs section but hear me out.
I started working last December for a company delivering a bunch of security stuff to stores at night. Started as Class 2 but two weeks later I passed my Class 1 and received my licence before Christmas. Now I’ve been promised repeatedly that I will be assessed for Class 1 but it turned out to be always next week.
On a Friday I went and got myself assessed at another place and then started my shift at my place. Now the guys wanted me to start right away, but I said I’ll be nice and not just walk out, I’ll do another week (I was on agency anyway). Now that Friday me and another driver had to pick up a tractor unit from the service, but I told him to drive the rigid there because I needed like another 30-35 minutes to reset my driving time. I drove the tractor unit back and because of this I got sacked the Wednesday after because I drove it back from service without the relevant licence, but the day before it was agreed with the assessor that I can drive it back.
Are they retarded or am I retarded? As far as I know you don’t need Class 1 licence (which I have, but was never photocopied or anything) to drive a tractor unit WITHOUT the trailer on. Was I sacked because he knew I’d leave anyway and he just wanted a reason for it?
Who is in the wrong ?
By the title this should go to the jobs section but hear me out.
I started working last December for a company delivering a bunch of security stuff to stores at night. Started as Class 2 but two weeks later I passed my Class 1 and received my licence before Christmas. Now I’ve been promised repeatedly that I will be assessed for Class 1 but it turned out to be always next week.
On a Friday I went and got myself assessed at another place and then started my shift at my place. Now the guys wanted me to start right away, but I said I’ll be nice and not just walk out, I’ll do another week (I was on agency anyway). Now that Friday me and another driver had to pick up a tractor unit from the service, but I told him to drive the rigid there because I needed like another 30-35 minutes to reset my driving time. I drove the tractor unit back and because of this I got sacked the Wednesday after because I drove it back from service without the relevant licence, but the day before it was agreed with the assessor that I can drive it back.
Are they retarded or am I retarded? As far as I know you don’t need Class 1 licence (which I have, but was never photocopied or anything) to drive a tractor unit WITHOUT the trailer on. Was I sacked because he knew I’d leave anyway and he just wanted a reason for it?
Who is in the wrong ?
exelero said:
Morning fellas.
By the title this should go to the jobs section but hear me out.
I started working last December for a company delivering a bunch of security stuff to stores at night.
Started as Class 2 but two weeks later I passed my Class 1 and received my licence before Christmas.
I’ve been promised repeatedly that I will be assessed for Class 1 but it turned out to be always next week.
On a Friday I went and got myself assessed at another place and then started my shift at my place. The guys wanted me to start right away, but I said I’ll be nice and not just walk out, I’ll do another week (I was on agency anyway).
That Friday me and another driver had to pick up a tractor unit from the service, but I told him to drive the rigid there because I needed like another 30-35 minutes to reset my driving time.
I drove the tractor unit back and because of this I got sacked the Wednesday after because I drove it back from service without the relevant licence, but the day before it was agreed with the assessor that I can drive it back.
Are they retarded or am I retarded? As far as I know you don’t need Class 1 licence (which I have, but was never photocopied or anything) to drive a tractor unit WITHOUT the trailer on. Was I sacked because he knew I’d leave anyway and he just wanted a reason for it?
Who is in the wrong ?
Edited to make it easier to read.By the title this should go to the jobs section but hear me out.
I started working last December for a company delivering a bunch of security stuff to stores at night.
Started as Class 2 but two weeks later I passed my Class 1 and received my licence before Christmas.
I’ve been promised repeatedly that I will be assessed for Class 1 but it turned out to be always next week.
On a Friday I went and got myself assessed at another place and then started my shift at my place. The guys wanted me to start right away, but I said I’ll be nice and not just walk out, I’ll do another week (I was on agency anyway).
That Friday me and another driver had to pick up a tractor unit from the service, but I told him to drive the rigid there because I needed like another 30-35 minutes to reset my driving time.
I drove the tractor unit back and because of this I got sacked the Wednesday after because I drove it back from service without the relevant licence, but the day before it was agreed with the assessor that I can drive it back.
Are they retarded or am I retarded? As far as I know you don’t need Class 1 licence (which I have, but was never photocopied or anything) to drive a tractor unit WITHOUT the trailer on. Was I sacked because he knew I’d leave anyway and he just wanted a reason for it?
Who is in the wrong ?
Which company has 'sacked' you?
Company 1 whom you're driving class 2 for or new company who assessed you for class 1?
Right, so you haven't been sacked, you've just been asked as an agency worker not to return.
It reads to me that they've done this because you've driven a Class 1 vehicle without being assessed internally.
You will claim that you had authorisation to drive it from their assessor. Only you know how documented that claim is.
Regardless, it doesn't really matter. You've not been sacked, so just go and start your new job.
It reads to me that they've done this because you've driven a Class 1 vehicle without being assessed internally.
You will claim that you had authorisation to drive it from their assessor. Only you know how documented that claim is.
Regardless, it doesn't really matter. You've not been sacked, so just go and start your new job.
They’ve let you go, not sacked you. If your licence allows you to drive C1 then it would be the person who told you to drive the tractor unit who was at fault if you hadn’t been properly assessed.
Sadly however one reality of agency work is that it’s fragile and if for any reason your face doesn’t fit, or someone else comes up that’s better you can be gone.
Sadly however one reality of agency work is that it’s fragile and if for any reason your face doesn’t fit, or someone else comes up that’s better you can be gone.
exelero said:
Already did, it just feels bad
But then the original question a tractor unit on its own is not class 1 is it ?
It doesn't really matter.But then the original question a tractor unit on its own is not class 1 is it ?
You have a class 1 licence so are clearly qualified. But you haven't been internally assessed to drive C1 - doesn't matter if it's with trailer or without.
Frankly, even if you had been assessed without a trailer it's not like you could rock up there and get your job back, nor would I expect that you want to.
You’re right. I wouldn’t want to go back. On the bright side I came to a company yesterday for a shift but I’ll be here all week and they already offered me a contract. Just want to see what the money is like. I’ll find out today.
By the way I wanted to drive days but I might want to rethink that. First drop was 30 minutes away and I’ve been here for 1.5 hours and there are still a couple of artics in front of me
By the way I wanted to drive days but I might want to rethink that. First drop was 30 minutes away and I’ve been here for 1.5 hours and there are still a couple of artics in front of me
TwigtheWonderkid said:
I think you must have a 5th wheel pinlock fitted to drive a tractor until with no trailer if you haven't got class 1.
As far as I understand that is a myth - in regard to driving the unit you’re well within your rights to do that on a cat c licence, the only issue being they see it you that you have driven it without the assessment from themselves, which seems bonkers as you’ve got a cat c entitlement and c+eLiamD said:
TwigtheWonderkid said:
I think you must have a 5th wheel pinlock fitted to drive a tractor until with no trailer if you haven't got class 1.
As far as I understand that is a myth - in regard to driving the unit you’re well within your rights to do that on a cat c licence, the only issue being they see it you that you have driven it without the assessment from themselves, which seems bonkers as you’ve got a cat c entitlement and c+eLook at me, law breaker extraordinaire.
They are the retarded ones. You can legally drive a tractor unit on a class 2 licence without disabling/removing the fifth wheel. My wife picks up our units from service regularly, and she only has class 2/ C/ whatever it is these days. Also, if I've read it right, you do actually now have your class 1. Sound like a bunch of dheads tbh.
I think I know who you used to work for, and if it makes you feel any better, dealing with them as a company is worse than dealing with them as a driver.
Good luck for the future mate
I think I know who you used to work for, and if it makes you feel any better, dealing with them as a company is worse than dealing with them as a driver.
Good luck for the future mate
Edited by One Amp Andy on Tuesday 30th March 15:30
exelero said:
And it was me who was trying to be nice and not walk out.
Just a box ticking, nicey nicey company. On the outside. That's all that matters mate. 'Assessors' are gobstes that can't handle a job in the real world. Have you ever been in the cab when one of them has actually been 'driving'?Gassing Station | Jobs & Employment Matters | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff