Redundancy pay if shop goes bankrupt!
Redundancy pay if shop goes bankrupt!
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Loopyleesa

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2,906 posts

196 months

Friday 6th January 2012
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I've been in my current job p/t for 15 years. It's a very small shop with 6 staff and is up for sale at the moment as losing money rapidly.
The owner has had it for 40 years and with Tescos opening very near by, it has finished our trade as we can't compete with their prices.

Although the shop is up for sale there is only so long we can afford to stay open and us staff feel bankruptcy is coming very soon.

So if the shop does go under, how do I/we claim our redundancy?

Obviously they will be bills/rent/debts to be paid so will the staff be put to the bottom of the list?




Changedmyname

12,549 posts

210 months

Friday 6th January 2012
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I feel for you,bloody Tescos, trying to get into our town too.
Sorry can't offer any advice but good luck.

Rollcage

11,345 posts

221 months

Friday 6th January 2012
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IIRC, if the owners are forced to declare bankruptcy then you will likely be eligible for a redundancy payment from the government, as they themselves won't have any money to pay you with.

ETA link here

Kudos

2,674 posts

203 months

Friday 6th January 2012
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How about getting a job with tescos?

Loopyleesa

Original Poster:

2,906 posts

196 months

Friday 6th January 2012
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Kudos said:
How about getting a job with tescos?
No thanks, I don't like the uniform!

Changedmyname

12,549 posts

210 months

Friday 6th January 2012
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Kudos said:
How about getting a job with tescos?
You realy know how to rub salt into the wounds.




Tesco table salt that is.

Cyberprog

2,323 posts

212 months

Friday 6th January 2012
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Changedmyname said:
You realy know how to rub salt into the wounds.




Tesco table salt that is.
It'll have to be Tesco Value Table Salt... they're going bankrupt after all wink

Kudos

2,674 posts

203 months

Saturday 7th January 2012
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Loopyleesa said:
No thanks, I don't like the uniform!
I'm sure the owner of your shop who is watching his livelihood going down the pan isn't so keen that you are only interested in lining your pockets than helping him

Eric Mc

125,606 posts

294 months

Saturday 7th January 2012
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Is the shop actually going bankrupt?

Just because a business decides to cease trading does not mean it is insolvent and can't pay its statutory debts.

Unpaid wages and redundancy pay are statutory debts in that the business MUST pay these BEFORE it pays other debts - such as money owed to suppliers, HM Revenue and Customs and the proprietors themselves.

Loopyleesa

Original Poster:

2,906 posts

196 months

Saturday 7th January 2012
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Kudos said:
Loopyleesa said:
No thanks, I don't like the uniform!
I'm sure the owner of your shop who is watching his livelihood going down the pan isn't so keen that you are only interested in lining your pockets than helping him
He joked about the same thing saying I wouldn't look good in the uniform rolleyes

Kudos

2,674 posts

203 months

Saturday 7th January 2012
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Loopyleesa said:
He joked about the same thing saying I wouldn't look good in the uniform rolleyes
Need pics smile

Loopyleesa

Original Poster:

2,906 posts

196 months

Saturday 7th January 2012
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Eric Mc said:
Is the shop actually going bankrupt?

Just because a business decides to cease trading does not mean it is insolvent and can't pay its statutory debts.

Unpaid wages and redundancy pay are statutory debts in that the business MUST pay these BEFORE it pays other debts - such as money owed to suppliers, HM Revenue and Customs and the proprietors themselves.
I'm sure he is hoping it will sell before going bankrupt.

He has owned the shop for 40 years and has retired already, we are all working together to hope bankruptcy doesn't happen.

We have all taken a reduction in pay to help out.

I am looking for another p/t job and if one comes up that suits then I will take it. My £2000 redundancy isn't that important to me and if it helps the boss/shop out then all the better.

I was purely curious about my topic smile

Eric Mc

125,606 posts

294 months

Saturday 7th January 2012
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Why do you keep mentioning the word "bankrupt"?

Is the shop run through a limited company or as a sole tradership?

If a limited company, a company does not go "bankrupt". If it becomes insolvent (i.e. it can't [pay its debts) it will either -

go into receivership

or

go into administration

or

be liquidated

If the shop is run by the proprietor as a sole trader, it is THE PROPRIETOR as an individual that would go bankrupt, not the shop.

If the shop shuts or even if it doesn't but the owner has to let staff go, then the staff are legally entitled to all back pay and redundancy pay that is due to them. They are preferential creditors and must be looked after first before ANYBODY else is paid.

Loopyleesa

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2,906 posts

196 months

Saturday 7th January 2012
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It's a sole trader!

Eric Mc

125,606 posts

294 months

Saturday 7th January 2012
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Loopyleesa said:
It's a sole trader!
So, unless the actual owner declares himself bankrupt, then there is no reason why you should not get any unpaid salary or redundancy money paid.

fridaypassion

11,457 posts

257 months

Saturday 7th January 2012
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Cyberprog said:
It'll have to be Tesco Value Table Salt... they're going bankrupt after all wink
You'll probably find you can get 500g of table salt for the same price as 2 x 250g value table salts anyway with Tescos discounting system.

69 coupe

2,459 posts

240 months

Sunday 8th January 2012
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Loopyleesa, I feel your angst, hope things pan out for you, hope you're young enough to move on or take over or re-invent.Remember look after No1...