Job offer, sounding board request
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FiF said:
Just to update and close out the original question and secondly to provide a comment to question raised by latest poster on the subject of returning to an old employer.
The new job has been turned down, and in part as a result of improved salary offer from existing employer. Equally some of the questions were answered by the prospective employer but there was still a lot of what was not said rather than the actual words. Anyway decision made, move on.
Re: returning to an old employer. During the above process the usual type of pro - vs - con for each option was listed. One on the pro side for the old employer was there's a definite track record of colleagues leaving for pastures new, both into private and public sector, and returning sometimes with a pay cut with stories of "hated it" and worse, then settled back in really happily.
Hope that helps
Thanks, i think i will probably go back...strange thing is i woudn't have considered looking for another job until i was approached, but the fact that the current company has a pay freeze and concerning comments about financial situation, means maybe it's a blessing in disguise.The new job has been turned down, and in part as a result of improved salary offer from existing employer. Equally some of the questions were answered by the prospective employer but there was still a lot of what was not said rather than the actual words. Anyway decision made, move on.
Re: returning to an old employer. During the above process the usual type of pro - vs - con for each option was listed. One on the pro side for the old employer was there's a definite track record of colleagues leaving for pastures new, both into private and public sector, and returning sometimes with a pay cut with stories of "hated it" and worse, then settled back in really happily.
Hope that helps
Kind of excited about a new challenge , even though it'd an old one if you get what i mean? Been a bit bored/distracted/on PH in my current role, so might be the kick up the backside i need.
As the saying goes, when someone tells you who they are, probably best to listen. A 12% rise to return to a known workplace with some new skills sounds very sensible. If you continue to spend at the old salary rate, you can start building a nice cushion against shocks, especially if the dizzy heights of more hours no longer sounds tempting.
FiF said:
Re sickness record, hardly ever. Maybe 2x2days in the 8 years.
All that means is he could be overdue a big one. Most people are sick at some point in their 30s/40s.Personally the sick pay situation would be a deal-breaker for me. Not because I'm sick a lot, or ever, but because it's a fairly good indicator that they see their workforce as machines to produce their profits rather than as people earning a living.
On the sick pay issue at first they say they do pay it in the attempt to proviide reassurance, but it's at their discretion. Which is probably not unusual for SME to be fair.
Then it gets dropped out that the HR director looks at sickness records company wide every month and " decides what to do."
Then there's some other stuff which just all adds up to maybe reinforce that not much of a stuff is given, not to mention work life balance questions. Emails at 3am for example and not down to significant time zone differences either.
As above decision made.
Then it gets dropped out that the HR director looks at sickness records company wide every month and " decides what to do."
Then there's some other stuff which just all adds up to maybe reinforce that not much of a stuff is given, not to mention work life balance questions. Emails at 3am for example and not down to significant time zone differences either.
As above decision made.
mickyc79 said:
To carry on thread title, without making a new one.
Ive been in my current role for 6 yrs, moved here from a company where i was in a similar job (technical sales) for 8 yrs. I am fortunate that i'm very understressed and well compensated in my role, which is quite flexible in that i can work from home on occasion and the bosses are mostly ok with me dropping things for emergencies with the kids etc. half day every fridau, no weekends...no real stress, busy enough, but can work at my own pace and get things done in working hours. When i started, company was an SME which felt very friendly and family run type of business, few years back was bought over by a large Group and now has a rather corporate aire about it, which i'm not really enjoying.
I wasnt looking for another job, but out of the blue, my old boss called me. We left on good terms and we have kept in touch over the years, sometimes bump into each other at business events...he told me my old company is doing really well and is very busy and asked me if i would consider coming back...ive taken a few days to think about and spoke to my current boss about the offer, which is about a 12% pay rise and flexitime/private medical etc.
Had a good few pay bumps over the years, but my current one was only 2% and when i asked could they match the offer from the old place , i was told there was a company wide pay freeze due to the financial situation we are in and there is no movement on it...
This rang alarm bells with me, as i had no idea we were in a financial situation!
This kind of forced my arm so i'm considering going back to the old job. Has anyone done this and did you find any issues/problems with going back to an old workplace? I didn't dislike the old job, just felt i had plateaued, both on pay and opportunities. This seems to have changed now as they can offer more than i currently make (and around double what i was on when i left), and besides, i dont feel like i really want to climb the corporate ladder anymore. Comfortable where i am and happy that i'm good at my job and know what i'm doing. Old job is a small family run firm, so no corporate BS to contend with, but equally, not as much scope for progression although the offered salary will do me so no need to push on for bigger and better.
Appreciate and welcome any advice, although i may have had my mind made up by the "financial situation" comment...
I did it about 2 years ago! Current employer got borged by a larger entity, and while I was reasonably well paid, the pay increases had been slow and I was getting bored. My previous employer (I'd left 6 years prior) had an issue with one of their employees and were looking for potential cover, which turned into an opening. They gave me a nice bump, company car, matched my holiday etc. and put some investment into their tech as well. It's been 2 years now nearly (EOM) and I'm very happy - back in a role where I get my fingers into all kinds of things!Ive been in my current role for 6 yrs, moved here from a company where i was in a similar job (technical sales) for 8 yrs. I am fortunate that i'm very understressed and well compensated in my role, which is quite flexible in that i can work from home on occasion and the bosses are mostly ok with me dropping things for emergencies with the kids etc. half day every fridau, no weekends...no real stress, busy enough, but can work at my own pace and get things done in working hours. When i started, company was an SME which felt very friendly and family run type of business, few years back was bought over by a large Group and now has a rather corporate aire about it, which i'm not really enjoying.
I wasnt looking for another job, but out of the blue, my old boss called me. We left on good terms and we have kept in touch over the years, sometimes bump into each other at business events...he told me my old company is doing really well and is very busy and asked me if i would consider coming back...ive taken a few days to think about and spoke to my current boss about the offer, which is about a 12% pay rise and flexitime/private medical etc.
Had a good few pay bumps over the years, but my current one was only 2% and when i asked could they match the offer from the old place , i was told there was a company wide pay freeze due to the financial situation we are in and there is no movement on it...
This rang alarm bells with me, as i had no idea we were in a financial situation!
This kind of forced my arm so i'm considering going back to the old job. Has anyone done this and did you find any issues/problems with going back to an old workplace? I didn't dislike the old job, just felt i had plateaued, both on pay and opportunities. This seems to have changed now as they can offer more than i currently make (and around double what i was on when i left), and besides, i dont feel like i really want to climb the corporate ladder anymore. Comfortable where i am and happy that i'm good at my job and know what i'm doing. Old job is a small family run firm, so no corporate BS to contend with, but equally, not as much scope for progression although the offered salary will do me so no need to push on for bigger and better.
Appreciate and welcome any advice, although i may have had my mind made up by the "financial situation" comment...
I did it about 2 years ago! Current employer got borged by a larger entity, and while I was reasonably well paid, the pay increases had been slow and I was getting bored. My previous employer (I'd left 6 years prior) had an issue with one of their employees and were looking for potential cover, which turned into an opening. They gave me a nice bump, company car, matched my holiday etc. and put some investment into their tech as well. It's been 2 years now nearly (EOM) and I'm very happy - back in a role where I get my fingers into all kinds of things!
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Wow, sound exactly like my scenario, right down to the time frames! Hopefully I will have the same happy outcome. Looking forward to getting back into the old place and seeing how they've changed. I've a fair few new skills and Knowledge hat I can bring to them that I didn't have before too. Should be a good fit for both.
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