Massive career change - becoming a barber
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EmailAddress said:
TownIdiot said:
What's the going rate for cut in west wales?
Work out how many you need to do to hit your future income target and see if it's realistic.
I'd imagine it's an awful lot of 12 quids to to get to where you need to be.
12 quid... when did you last get your hair cut... 1995 Huddersfield.Work out how many you need to do to hit your future income target and see if it's realistic.
I'd imagine it's an awful lot of 12 quids to to get to where you need to be.
SAS Tom said:
EmailAddress said:
TownIdiot said:
What's the going rate for cut in west wales?
Work out how many you need to do to hit your future income target and see if it's realistic.
I'd imagine it's an awful lot of 12 quids to to get to where you need to be.
12 quid... when did you last get your hair cut... 1995 Huddersfield.Work out how many you need to do to hit your future income target and see if it's realistic.
I'd imagine it's an awful lot of 12 quids to to get to where you need to be.
p4cks said:
loskie said:
Isn't that an Iranian place?
Well there are Turkish flags on the walls and ‘Turkish barber’ in the sign, not IranianPRO5T said:
The "Turkish" (a lot look Turkish and claim to be but many aren't) are drugs money-laundering, the Chinese nail salons are Prostitution money laundering
PRO5T said:
p4cks said:
loskie said:
Isn't that an Iranian place?
Well there are Turkish flags on the walls and ‘Turkish barber’ in the sign, not IranianPRO5T said:
The "Turkish" (a lot look Turkish and claim to be but many aren't) are drugs money-laundering, the Chinese nail salons are Prostitution money laundering
Car washing was also very popular in the area but one got done for selling drugs - which must have worked very well for them, a very easy cover. Plenty of Turkish restaurants - I presume these are for the more ambitious criminals but could be legitimate as some do good business.
But getting vaguely back on topic. The OP's posts in other threads suggest that he should progress to ladies hair dressing, as he does appear to be quite in demand! It could be a goldmine
Edited by Andy 308GTB on Tuesday 18th June 07:04
Petrus1983 said:
After a career in HNW financial management and then a very short stint with a FTSE100 insurance company I've felt a little lost. I've been looking for jobs but nothing seems to be available, especially in my new home town (west Wales). I've always been interested with style/fashion and recently couldn't get a haircut as they were fully booked for 4 days - and that got me thinking. I've found a barbering course - 9 weeks of intensive training. I appreciate financially I'll earn a lot less than I was use to, I'll be on my feet a lot - but I'll get to meet nice people, it's a trade not affected by technology, if I have my own place I can incorporate other aspects to make more money, I'm in control.
What am I missing? I'm meeting the training course person tomorrow.
Making a wild guess that the 1983 refers to the year of your birth, you are now in your early 40s.What am I missing? I'm meeting the training course person tomorrow.
You have had a career in the financial world and you are n0w thinking of becoming a barber.
Don't.
Stay with what you know.
Alickadoo said:
EmailAddress said:
TownIdiot said:
What's the going rate for cut in west wales?
Work out how many you need to do to hit your future income target and see if it's realistic.
I'd imagine it's an awful lot of 12 quids to to get to where you need to be.
12 quid... when did you last get your hair cut... 1995 Huddersfield.Work out how many you need to do to hit your future income target and see if it's realistic.
I'd imagine it's an awful lot of 12 quids to to get to where you need to be.
I doubt there’s going to be many fade cuts in West Wales is there?
There’s a place I’ve been in Brixton a few times (not for a fade) where they charge a monthly fee and you get a set number of cuts for that if you want fades. The top end of it meant you could come almost as much as you want.
He said it was a very much more stable flow of cash. That said, their cheapest cut is £20 for clippers, £26 for fade and £30 for scissor cut - I also doubt Wales can support that.
The other place u go the lads are all from Kurdistan, is £16 I think. I personally would not enjoy the job. Hard work and poor pay.
There’s a place I’ve been in Brixton a few times (not for a fade) where they charge a monthly fee and you get a set number of cuts for that if you want fades. The top end of it meant you could come almost as much as you want.
He said it was a very much more stable flow of cash. That said, their cheapest cut is £20 for clippers, £26 for fade and £30 for scissor cut - I also doubt Wales can support that.
The other place u go the lads are all from Kurdistan, is £16 I think. I personally would not enjoy the job. Hard work and poor pay.
EmailAddress said:
TownIdiot said:
What's the going rate for cut in west wales?
Work out how many you need to do to hit your future income target and see if it's realistic.
I'd imagine it's an awful lot of 12 quids to to get to where you need to be.
12 quid... when did you last get your hair cut... 1995 Huddersfield.Work out how many you need to do to hit your future income target and see if it's realistic.
I'd imagine it's an awful lot of 12 quids to to get to where you need to be.
wisbech said:
Re fade cuts - other thing to look out for is a recession. Shaggy hair becomes fashionable once getting a weekly haircut starts becoming a financial burden. E.g early 90’s
Well noticed. Toni & Guy's Natural Inversion (and to a lessor extent, their Forward Graduation that became the "Rachel" cut) was an incredibly clever technique born out of the early 90s recession for womens cuts. It basically meant that a longer womens style cold go around three months without a trim instead of six weeks.I based a large part of my business on it and was incredibly successful once the straitening fad had worn out in the mid noughties and women embraced the "boho chic" or "beach curls" look that folk like Sienna Miller led. I could charge more while doing less as word spread there was someone who cold cut hair and you didn't need a trim for ages.
Returning uni students loved it as did busy working women/mums who didn't have the time.
I actually met an old client a couple months ago who was bemoaning that they couldn't understand how every stylist they visited now couldn't get a haircut to last more than six weeks.
Anyway, I digress...
Jonathan27 said:
There is quite a bit of variability, I paid £42 last week on Canary Wharf
Used to pay £29 + tip so around £34 in Camden,last time I went had increased to £34 still gave a tip but the deciding factor in looking elsewhere, appointment is booked so always get same guy,this time he was still finishing off someone else,'suggested' another barber who was not busy,also noticed slight drop in standards,so after using the place last three years off to pastures new,despite it being just down road, plenty of choice nearby PRO5T said:
One other thing to note-hair like any traditional fashion is very cyclical. The "Peaky Blinders" skin fade has been in for years now and is dangerously close to being out of fashion.
Once this fad runs out (and believe me, it will in less than five years) the barbering game will be decimated. The proliferation of men getting a weekly haircut to support that style has fuelled the explosion of barber shops and when it dies a lot of them will too.
I’ve always thought watching the kids getting cuts it’s to be like footballers etc so I guess keep an eye on the premier league styles! I’m genuinely surprised to see parents spending so much on kids cuts, but peer pressure means it’s damn near compulsory in my town yet If you’re over 40 most folk frequent the gents hairdressers & pay £8 every 3-4weeksOnce this fad runs out (and believe me, it will in less than five years) the barbering game will be decimated. The proliferation of men getting a weekly haircut to support that style has fuelled the explosion of barber shops and when it dies a lot of them will too.
I first got drawn into the “Turkish” for lining/shaping my beard & I like the “pamper” experience v the £8 cut, it’s also near a necessity for me to visit before an event/function to look my best with the beard. At times I wonder how much cheaper life would be without the beard, I’d prob return to the £8 queue so I guess beard trend would have a big impact too.
I love how thinking going on a 9 week training course suddenly makes you a successful hairdresser and you will live a stress free life from then on.
My partners daughter runs her own unisex salon, and I can assure you that training to become a professional hairdresser with your own sustainable client base takes years not weeks and is far from stress free.
I would at least stick to the lady clients Petrus, you do seem to have natural skills in that dept
My partners daughter runs her own unisex salon, and I can assure you that training to become a professional hairdresser with your own sustainable client base takes years not weeks and is far from stress free.
I would at least stick to the lady clients Petrus, you do seem to have natural skills in that dept
The woman I go to is the traditional type place, her clientele are mainly aged between 40-90 plus children,
She charges £10, and I reckon an average cut takes 5-10 minutes, no more.
There are always 1-4 sitting down waiting for their turn.
However, she is on her feet most of the day and is probably over 50, must be hard.
She knows everything about everybody, men tend to rabbit on.."My wife doesn't understand me" etc,
Not bad pay though, as she owns the shop.
There is another chair which she rents to a lady friend who does ladies at the other end of the shop.
She charges £10, and I reckon an average cut takes 5-10 minutes, no more.
There are always 1-4 sitting down waiting for their turn.
However, she is on her feet most of the day and is probably over 50, must be hard.
She knows everything about everybody, men tend to rabbit on.."My wife doesn't understand me" etc,
Not bad pay though, as she owns the shop.
There is another chair which she rents to a lady friend who does ladies at the other end of the shop.
Alickadoo said:
Making a wild guess that the 1983 refers to the year of your birth, you are now in your early 40s.
You have had a career in the financial world and you are n0w thinking of becoming a barber.
Don't.
Stay with what you know.
I'm 44. Whilst the financial world has provided me with a lot and I'm grateful for that - I desperately didn't enjoy it. I by and large didn't like the other people in the industry, client expectations, constantly worrying about global markets etc etc. I don't have a mortgage, my boat is fairly well behaved lately, my retirement is sorted and I have provisions for my son. You have had a career in the financial world and you are n0w thinking of becoming a barber.
Don't.
Stay with what you know.
I absolutely know that after 9 weeks I won't be an expert - but the course is intensive and I've met the owner this morning (and visited the location etc) who seems very professional in his approach. Plus I have to start somewhere.
MonkeyLegend... I weirdly have zero interest in doing women's hair.
Petrus1983 said:
I'm 44. Whilst the financial world has provided me with a lot and I'm grateful for that - I desperately didn't enjoy it. I by and large didn't like the other people in the industry, client expectations, constantly worrying about global markets etc etc. I don't have a mortgage, my boat is fairly well behaved lately, my retirement is sorted and I have provisions for my son.
I absolutely know that after 9 weeks I won't be an expert - but the course is intensive and I've met the owner this morning (and visited the location etc) who seems very professional in his approach. Plus I have to start somewhere.
MonkeyLegend... I weirdly have zero interest in doing women's hair.
You are in a great position so why not give it a go? It's not as if it's going to ruin you if it doesn't work out.I absolutely know that after 9 weeks I won't be an expert - but the course is intensive and I've met the owner this morning (and visited the location etc) who seems very professional in his approach. Plus I have to start somewhere.
MonkeyLegend... I weirdly have zero interest in doing women's hair.
Alickadoo said:
Making a wild guess that the 1983 refers to the year of your birth, you are now in your early 40s.
You have had a career in the financial world and you are n0w thinking of becoming a barber.
Don't.
Stay with what you know.
And yet he’s said he didn’t enjoy it. Why do people think that well paid profession equals happy person?You have had a career in the financial world and you are n0w thinking of becoming a barber.
Don't.
Stay with what you know.
Go for it Petrus.
Petrus1983 said:
I've hopefully taken the last place on the course.
I forgot to ask about scissors etc - they sell a barbering kit "at cost" for £500, which should be £950. I hadn't factored it in but speaking to a few friends in the industry this is acceptable/good.
Thanks for the support about
Are you left or right handed?I forgot to ask about scissors etc - they sell a barbering kit "at cost" for £500, which should be £950. I hadn't factored it in but speaking to a few friends in the industry this is acceptable/good.
Thanks for the support about
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