Salary band changes

[iphonedyou]

Tenacious said:

HR are usually there for the employer and not the employee.

This gets dispensed on a great many employment threads as if it's a canny observation that goes unnoticed to most.

I don't see how. Of course they're there for the employer, and not the employee. Employment law is byzantine in its complexity and asymmetrical in its application. Not a wonder the employer needs dedicated resource to protect its interests.

[davepen]

fat80b said:

I'd be looking to find the manager (maybe your direct line manager, maybe 1 or 2 levels up) that wants to support you to "fix" it.

At my previous place (electronics enginneering) we used to find that new graduates would be offered more than the previous years intake. If only due to inflation and market forces. A few months later at the annual review, the previous year's intake would (mostly) get an increment, the new intake wouldn't. It did cause a few moans, suppressed by the "pink slips".

Stuff like this is why a private company HR wouldn't publish (narrow) salary bands, it causes too many issues. The one time bands were issued, during a re-grading process, the bands were so wide and overlapping so much that it didn't mean too much.
The OP needs to get the certificate, speak to his line manager(s) who can then put his case into the review process. If that doesn't work, then time to find your market value...

[Tenacious]

iphonedyou said:

Tenacious said:

HR are usually there for the employer and not the employee.

This gets dispensed on a great many employment threads as if it's a canny observation that goes unnoticed to most.

I don't see how. Of course they're there for the employer, and not the employee. Employment law is byzantine in its complexity and asymmetrical in its application. Not a wonder the employer needs dedicated resource to protect its interests.

Sometimes it's good to reinforce the obvious as familiarity breeds complacency.

[hepy]

Mr Pointy said:

In general you will only achieve a significant pay rise by moving to another company. HR will resist any attempt to level up your salary.

Start brushing up your CV & polish your LinkedIn page.

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[Troka]

Be upfront and ask them for a pay rise or ask what you might expect in the coming year or so. Worst case, look about and see what's going or just get a couple more years experience and then look again. Something always comes along.

[MJ85]

I had a very similar experience. It took interviews at other companies for them to realise I was serious. They then offered a big percentage pay rise to keep me. I did stay for a few years after, although it raised some eyebrows with colleagues who did not earn as well.

It is often hard to be seen by an employer as anything other than what you started as.