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PetrolTed

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Friday 3rd May 2002
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adeewuff

567 posts

277 months

Friday 3rd May 2002
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I do hope anyone in the car came away unhurt, but he really did have it coming as he was driving round like an absolute d**k! It's lucky that he didn't take anyone else off with him.

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jeremyc

24,550 posts

291 months

Friday 3rd May 2002
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And I think I'm correct in saying it was an instructor driving (Ecole de Pilotage).

johno

8,520 posts

289 months

Friday 3rd May 2002
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D'OH !

Was driving like a dick though, I wouldn't want to be on a race track with him anywhere !

As for the overtake on the Elise, it is the kind of crap driving you don't want when you are on a track day.

PetrolTed

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310 months

Friday 3rd May 2002
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What concerned me was the crash itself. He dipped a wheel in the gravel and it flipped him over very easily. Had me thinking of the corners I've taken close to the limit in the S. Time to erect some scaffolding in the cockpit

Paceracing

729 posts

273 months

Friday 3rd May 2002
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Hilariously funny.
I must admit the guy was a total tw@t driving like that on a trackday with other cars around it was extremely irresponsible.
However, the driver seemed to be able to do a very good job with the car,.....right up to the point where he rolled it.
From the point of view as a racing driver myself, I know that the track owners and organisers would have had a major sense of humor failure after seeing that.

ATG

21,357 posts

279 months

Friday 3rd May 2002
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Surprised he wasn't pulled off the track before he didit for himself. I thought the car stood up to the battering quite well. Hate to think what would have happened to my Chim ... Tower View time I think...

Also liked the euro pop background music. very appropriate

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PetrolTed

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Friday 3rd May 2002
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Apart from the Elise overtake the driving wasn't necessarily bad. 4WD cars can be driven with a very different technique after all.

GreenV8s

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291 months

Friday 3rd May 2002
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Looked like great fun, but well out of order that close to other cars IMO. Strange how he just seemed to go straight on at the bend where 'it' happened, perhaps it was just understeer but is it possible he had a blow-out on the front nearside? That sideways stuff must be murder on tyres and I reckon he could easily have worn right through them. Would have been pretty obvious from the wreckage I would have thought, did anyone see?

andyvdg

1,537 posts

290 months

Friday 3rd May 2002
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Seemed to be going OK - apart from being rude with other drivers (Elise) - then the frightening bit is how easliy the car flipped (many times) with just one wheel off the track.

Rollbar - essential.

HarryW

15,279 posts

276 months

Friday 3rd May 2002
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He was having fun, but I'm not so sure the other cars on the track would have been enjoying it as much.
It did look like the car was almost going straight on, well before the apex, understeering through the whole corner. The speed the elise disapears ahead of him, shows his relative slow speed through the corner.
As has already been said possibily his front left could either been out of grip/tread or deflating? Either way quite sobering to see the amount of flips and damage, I don't think there was a panel that it didn't land on!
At least it didn't look like anyone was injured. A lesson here somewhere.

Harry

Don

28,377 posts

291 months

Saturday 4th May 2002
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Amazing that the guy was willing to push so hard in his road going car. Less circuit driving more rally driving.

He did seem to show a total disregard for the safety of others around him. (to wit the Elise and a Porsche).

Guys: tell me Track Days aren't like that! (Thinks about P+J).

CarZee

13,382 posts

274 months

Saturday 4th May 2002
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I think if you download the full 8 minute file and watch it properly it does indeed show a melted FNS tyre.

Like others have said, looks like great fun.. not for the others though..

I love the way they've produced the clip - proper video editing, music etc.. Wasn't that tune from The Faust Tapes? Obst & Gemuse ? Anyone odd/old enough to remember that??? (I'm not that old, just that odd )

Paceracing

729 posts

273 months

Saturday 4th May 2002
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Seemed to be going OK - apart from being rude with other drivers (Elise) - then the frightening bit is how easliy the car flipped (many times) with just one wheel off the track.

Rollbar - essential.


I suspect the reason it flipped easilly, was that he ran out of track and sunk into the gravel trap whilst going sideways.

Jas.

manek

2,977 posts

291 months

Saturday 4th May 2002
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Maybe there was a kerb which was just enough to lift the unloaded inside wheel.

Nice music, good production too!

adeewuff

567 posts

277 months

Saturday 4th May 2002
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Nice music, good production too!



Yeah, the guy that put that film together seems to be a bit of a Moby fan. Good tunes!

jeffa

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290 months

Saturday 4th May 2002
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Am shocked at the whole thing. Total disreguard for others (esp elise n 911) Instructor or not, it was unacceptable.

On the crash, if you look at the first time he took that corner it shows that he nearly lost it there. He just pushed it a bit too much...

powelly

490 posts

289 months

Tuesday 7th May 2002
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However, the driver seemed to be able to do a very good job with the car,.....right up to the point where he rolled it.



Do you mean right upto the point where he ran out of talent? (stolen from Marcus - EasyTrack)

Still, hope he was OK... maybe the injuries he sustained on the day came from the Elise driver punching his lights out?

Craig

Roop

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291 months

Tuesday 7th May 2002
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I did a track day a couple of years back in a then brand-new Evo VI. After just 10 or so laps of Silverstone (and not sideways laps like the dude in the video) the NSF was down to the canvas. Highly worrying. Luckily, It wasn't may car and I didn't have to drive it home...!

Roop

thom

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280 months

Tuesday 7th May 2002
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Info on this crash:

The driver is the owner of the car and also the owner of "Flat 6", the first independent Porsche French mag, and also the owner of...the Abbeville circuit

He came out fine but his wife was lightly hurt...

PS: it happened on March 16th; the passenger in a 964 was filming, I don't know if he coded his VHS tape though.

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