First dedicated track day car

First dedicated track day car

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JT71

Original Poster:

202 posts

228 months

Tuesday 12th June 2007
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I've recently moved from Lotus Exige to 911 ownership, and miss the odd track day that I used to do in the Lotus so have decided to buy a dedicated track day car. With an extremely limited budget of about £6K for the weekend toy, any ideas? I'd kinda settled on a Westfield but would be interested in thoughts before I go and buy!

Cheers guys.

bus_ter

248 posts

226 months

Thursday 14th June 2007
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What with a perfectly good 911 sat there? It is a sports car you know! It's what it's designed for :-)

You could always get s second hand Cat I suppose.

Edited by bus_ter on Thursday 14th June 12:19

silv

560 posts

236 months

Thursday 14th June 2007
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idea Get one of your friends to come up with another £6k and buy our Radical Clubsport !! See add in race cars for sale. I own the Radical with a mate,we share all costs 50 50 which makes running the car and track days very affordable, and we have a seriously quick car which is only beaten by other Radicals and full on race cars biggrin

BertBert

19,558 posts

217 months

Thursday 14th June 2007
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silv said:
idea Get one of your friends to come up with another £6k and buy our Radical Clubsport !! See add in race cars for sale. I own the Radical with a mate,we share all costs 50 50 which makes running the car and track days very affordable, and we have a seriously quick car which is only beaten by other Radicals and full on race cars biggrin
I don;t know Silv's car, but I have a radical clubsport too it is a great track day car. It is very quick and more importantly superb fun.

Bert

JT71

Original Poster:

202 posts

228 months

Friday 15th June 2007
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That looks like a serious bit of kit. I take it it's not road legal (i.e. I'd have to get a trailer and a tow bar fitted to the 911), and rent a garage...

It does look like a hardcore bit of kit though, if I were to buy one, how do I get it checked out, knowing absolutely nothing about them? (i.e. is there a company anyone knows of that can do a pre-sale inspection).

JT71

Original Poster:

202 posts

228 months

Friday 15th June 2007
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One other thing - any thoughts on a single seater? There seem to be a few ex single seater race cars for sale at stupidly low money - or would I need a race team to service it!? I kinda figured that if this was a ford zetec unit or equivalent, it should be fairly simple mechanically.

custardtart

1,731 posts

259 months

Friday 15th June 2007
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limited opportunity for open wheelers on track days, yu'd likely end up needing a race licence to drive it on official test days.

Stick with the westy and you won't go far wrong - or take the 911!

JT71

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202 posts

228 months

Friday 15th June 2007
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Didn't realise that - I thought anything went on a track day. I have thought hard tracking the Porsche, and very tempted to get some stiffer suspension and start using it, but dreading the running costs around brakes and tyres (and the cost of any small prangs...). At least with a Westie / Cat any small prangs are usually cheap to repair, with minimal running costs.

WEREWOLF

581 posts

236 months

Friday 15th June 2007
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C`ant see the point of geting a great performance car and not using it on the track.The way this government is going you`ll soon be stuck driving at 30mph everywhere then what`s the point of having a fast car?
Just my 2 pennies worth.

JT71

Original Poster:

202 posts

228 months

Friday 15th June 2007
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It's a good point, however having recently driven my Lotus into a tyre wall, causing not a lot of damage but still managing to amount a bill of £7K, it's made me think twice about driving an expensive road car around a track!!

boxsey

3,575 posts

216 months

Friday 15th June 2007
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For your budget you could easily get a 944S2 and have cash for looking after brakes and suspension and become a 2 Porsche owner!

The only problem with my suggestion is that after a few times in the 944 you'll start thinking of whether you should try the 911 next time.

JT71

Original Poster:

202 posts

228 months

Friday 15th June 2007
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I was thinking of 944 as they're so cheap, just wondered whether it was fast enough compared to a Westie / cat / my 911? Also, surely it's still potentially £££ if pranged and for repairs / maintenance. Are you thinking knackered out 944 on last legs, drive it into the ground...?

chris_w

2,565 posts

265 months

Friday 15th June 2007
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Just to throw my tuppence in... I would say get a dedicated track car. My 911 wasn't great fun on the track with the standard susp giving lots of roll and understeer. So, you'd have to spend money getting it up to track spec then have higher than necessary running costs on the consumables. And, would you ever push as hard in your expensive, every day car that you had to drive home in?

I think the demands for a track car are too different to those for a road car, even a sports one. As you get more serious, do you continue pumping money into the Porsche to make it more track focused or, do what you maybe should have done at the start and get something dedicated to avoid further compromising your everyday driver?

Personally, I'd get a stripped out track toy and drive the wheels off it. We have a classic mini pushing out 140 ish bhp and on slicks which will see off most road cars and is a real hoot to drive.

All imho of course!

Chris

JT71

Original Poster:

202 posts

228 months

Friday 15th June 2007
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Chris - couldn't agree more, hence my original post saying about getting something dedicated. It's more about cost of consumables, and the fact that I just wouldn't end up pushing the 911 as hard as I would something else.

silv

560 posts

236 months

Friday 15th June 2007
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JT71 said:
That looks like a serious bit of kit. I take it it's not road legal (i.e. I'd have to get a trailer and a tow bar fitted to the 911), and rent a garage...

It does look like a hardcore bit of kit though, if I were to buy one, how do I get it checked out, knowing absolutely nothing about them? (i.e. is there a company anyone knows of that can do a pre-sale inspection).
James, If you are interested in further info from another source on our car give Saxon Motorsport a call on 01580 720845. Ask for Mark, he has looked after the car for the last five years. Note : You won't need to buy a trailer or anything else to run our car on track days it is up for sale with everything you need including the fuel in the tank!

LocoBlade

7,644 posts

262 months

Friday 15th June 2007
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Westies are great but you'll be looking at older and less powerful versions for £5k, so Id suggest looking at older Strikers / Furys / Phoenixes from the Sylva stable, or some of the other seven type manufacturers such as MK, Stuart Taylor etc as you're likely to get more perfomance for the money.

gridgway

1,001 posts

251 months

Saturday 16th June 2007
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silv said:
JT71 said:
That looks like a serious bit of kit. I take it it's not road legal (i.e. I'd have to get a trailer and a tow bar fitted to the 911), and rent a garage...

It does look like a hardcore bit of kit though, if I were to buy one, how do I get it checked out, knowing absolutely nothing about them? (i.e. is there a company anyone knows of that can do a pre-sale inspection).
James, If you are interested in further info from another source on our car give Saxon Motorsport a call on 01580 720845. Ask for Mark, he has looked after the car for the last five years. Note : You won't need to buy a trailer or anything else to run our car on track days it is up for sale with everything you need including the fuel in the tank!
Yes there are a lot of people about who can take the mystery out of buying a Radical. I can't get enough of mine because the power to grip ratio is perfect and it makes an average driver like me feel like a hero!

Graham
PS yes I am a fan of the clubsport! Mine has two seats so I can take friends out too!

Edited by gridgway on Saturday 16th June 22:40

LocoBlade

7,644 posts

262 months

Monday 18th June 2007
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Hi Graham

Is it straightforward to put a passenger seat in a Clubsport?

Sean Edwards

999 posts

216 months

Monday 18th June 2007
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I would agree about the Radical, awesome bit of kit for track days! Caterhams are also really good and great fun.

Got a 911 and not using it on track, that's scandalous :P What model is it?

For inspection, you must have a friend or a friends friend that knows about cars or has mechanical knowledge, if so, bring him/her along to inspect it. Although you are looking for a dedicated track day car, most of them out there are built to withstand most things, so there pretty reliable.

www.seanedwards.eu

Edited by Sean Edwards on Monday 18th June 18:01

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127 posts

217 months

Monday 18th June 2007
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I know some people will laugh when they see this but I have heard they are awesome on the track how about one of these and changed for a radio smile

http://www.talonsportscars.com/100rt.asp


seriously quick and good fun in the twisties apparently