Good skills, Good fun!

Good skills, Good fun!

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gtdc

4,259 posts

289 months

Monday 14th May 2007
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It doesn't do it for me... just can't get my head round this sideeeways thing... it's sooo slow.

Melindi
www.goldtrack.co.uk

trackdemon

Original Poster:

12,273 posts

267 months

Monday 14th May 2007
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gtdc said:
It doesn't do it for me... just can't get my head round this sideeeways thing... it's sooo slow.

Melindi
www.goldtrack.co.uk


Its SOOO MUCH FUN!

gtdc

4,259 posts

289 months

Tuesday 15th May 2007
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That's the bit I'm not getting... the fun to me would be from getting smoother and quicker... not from hanging my ass out... I must be lacking the drifting gene.

Melindi
www.goldtrack.co.uk

Sean Edwards

999 posts

216 months

Tuesday 15th May 2007
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I agree with Melindi...

Its fun for about 10 min, but it is very easy to do and gets boring. It's more fun at Silverstone, in a Caterham with sticky front tyres and hard rear tyres round a slalom cone course.

But driving properly is much better any day of the week, and actually requires skill. Where as anyone can learn to drift or slide like that.

Good practice for when you get it slightly wrong on a track day though!

www.seanedwards.eu

Naughty Magpie

1,484 posts

244 months

Tuesday 15th May 2007
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Wish there were more places that did drift days apart from Javelin.

Maxx

356 posts

265 months

Tuesday 15th May 2007
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Naughty Magpie

1,484 posts

244 months

Tuesday 15th May 2007
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Maxx said:


Great - shall book a day when my car's back working again. Significantly more expensive than a days hooning round Barkston but I could do with proper instruction!





Edited by Naughty Magpie on Tuesday 15th May 13:02

F.M

5,816 posts

226 months

Tuesday 15th May 2007
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trackdemon said:
gtdc said:
It doesn't do it for me... just can't get my head round this sideeeways thing... it's sooo slow.

Melindi
www.goldtrack.co.uk


Its SOOO MUCH FUN!


a great little video though..thumbup

fastfreddy

8,577 posts

243 months

Tuesday 15th May 2007
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Sean Edwards said:
I agree with Melindi...

Its fun for about 10 min, but it is very easy to do and gets boring. It's more fun at Silverstone, in a Caterham with sticky front tyres and hard rear tyres round a slalom cone course.

But driving properly is much better any day of the week, and actually requires skill. Where as anyone can learn to drift or slide like that.

Good practice for when you get it slightly wrong on a track day though!

www.seanedwards.eu


That's a bit like saying racing is easy. Almost anyone can get to the stage where they can enter a race but it doesn't mean they will win it!
Yes, it's easy to power slide out of a corner but to do really well at drifting takes practise and a fair bit of skill IMO. I'm not saying one is better or more fun than the other, but don't think that entering a corner at 100mph+ completely sideways while still having enough control to place the car accurately to a defined clipping point on the way through is easy, because it isn't!




Edited by fastfreddy on Tuesday 15th May 13:31

Maxx

356 posts

265 months

Tuesday 15th May 2007
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Naughty Magpie said:


Great - shall book a day when my car's back working again. Significantly more expensive than a days hooning round Barkston but I could do with proper instruction!


I was thinking more of the Drift Practice Days @ £85 -> www.drivedata.com/shop/product.asp?numRecordPosition=5&P_ID=130&strPageHistory=cat&strKeywords=&SearchFor=&PT_ID=41

If you can drift a bit you'll get lots of chances to practice, the level 1 course is more for total beginners.
You can book an instructor session if you wish, think it's about £20, the level 2 course is essentially that, a Drift Practice Day with some instruction.
You may also find that the other drivers on the practice sessions will give you some tips and maybe even some in-car instruction, it's a very laidback friendly day.

Maxx

gtdc

4,259 posts

289 months

Tuesday 15th May 2007
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Is it true that when you go drifting you just do it round a couple of corners?

Melindi
www.goldtrack.co.uk

bad_roo

5,188 posts

243 months

Tuesday 15th May 2007
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Drifting is a pretty pointless and arcane thing to do. It's also hugely enjoyable and certainly feels very exciting while you're at the wheel, regardless of what's showing on the speedo.

For an FIA GT racer to come on here and proclaim that it's easy is a bit like David Beckham telling a bunch of Sunday leaguers that consistently putting the ball into the top corner from 40 yards is a piece of cake.

993rsr

3,486 posts

255 months

Tuesday 15th May 2007
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bad_roo said:
Drifting is a pretty pointless and arcane thing to do. It's also hugely enjoyable and certainly feels very exciting while you're at the wheel, regardless of what's showing on the speedo.

For an FIA GT racer to come on here and proclaim that it's easy is a bit like David Beckham telling a bunch of Sunday leaguers that consistently putting the ball into the top corner from 40 yards is a piece of cake.


Possibly the single most engaging aspect of driving for me.

Not the fastest for sure but the most demanding and thrilling when you get it right.

Sean Edwards

999 posts

216 months

Tuesday 15th May 2007
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The point I am making is, I could teach someone or someone could learn how to drift, to a very high level. The same is not true for racing or putting a really good lap time together. I can teach someone to get within 4 or 5 seconds of me, but if they don't have natural talent, it will be impossible to get them much closer than.

Also, it would take a lot more time to become a good racing driver then it would take to become a good drifter...

I like drifting; it's fun to a certain extent. But I get bored easily with it and that is just my opinion of course. I am sure a lot of people could do it all day every day and not get bored...

There is a lot of money to be made in drifting these days and a lot more chances to get paid doing it than there is in racing!

www.seanedwards.eu

fastfreddy

8,577 posts

243 months

Tuesday 15th May 2007
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Sean Edwards said:
The point I am making is, I could teach someone or someone could learn how to drift, to a very high level. The same is not true for racing or putting a really good lap time together. I can teach someone to get within 4 or 5 seconds of me, but if they don't have natural talent, it will be impossible to get them much closer than.

Also, it would take a lot more time to become a good racing driver then it would take to become a good drifter...

I like drifting; it's fun to a certain extent. But I get bored easily with it and that is just my opinion of course. I am sure a lot of people could do it all day every day and not get bored...

There is a lot of money to be made in drifting these days and a lot more chances to get paid doing it than there is in racing!

www.seanedwards.eu


Sean, you might be a quick GT driver, but you don't know what you're talking about in this context. Unless of course you've been drifting under another name all these years...

TRACKDEMON

Original Poster:

12,273 posts

267 months

Wednesday 16th May 2007
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If drifting was as easy as implied, we'd all be doing it; I've seen plenty people attempt to drift on track and fail. And very few do it successfully.

Vast swaithes of people go circuit racing every weekend in everything from karts to trucks; relatively 'everyone' is doing it.

chris71

21,547 posts

248 months

Wednesday 16th May 2007
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Surely the car control you need to drift at 70% slip is also handy going for a timed run at 5 or 10% slip?

Never tried drifting specifically, but can't help thinking it would improve your feel for the car. I know racing is very different, but it still uses those skills to a certain extent.

gtdc

4,259 posts

289 months

Wednesday 16th May 2007
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>>>>I could teach someone or someone could learn how to drift, to a very high level.

Ooooo, I feel a challenge coming on...

From what I can gather it's an awful lot harder than it looks and there's a lot of skill involved in it. I'm going to have to go see some in the flesh I think.

Melindi
www.goldtrack.co.uk