very badly run track day at knockhill
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take a look at this and tell me if you agree...
http://videos.streetfire.net/search/k
I've not been to one of their events and will not unless they improve, but running a track day like that will only give bad press.
join me in emailing them if you agree and maybe they can get their act cleaned up
enquiries@knockhill.com
http://videos.streetfire.net/search/k
I've not been to one of their events and will not unless they improve, but running a track day like that will only give bad press.
join me in emailing them if you agree and maybe they can get their act cleaned up
enquiries@knockhill.com
You wont belive that I came on here to start a thread about this idiot!!!
Be advised, I you ever come within a hundred yards of this car turn and go the opposite way!!
I have posted my comments on the thread, I have Marshalled hundreds of track days, and that is by far the worse, even most clueless driving I have ever seen.
And shame on Knockhill for letting him stay out there for 12 sessions.
Also the Cones seem like a stupid idea, I know the reason, but they cause way more trouble than they cure
IDIOT!
Be advised, I you ever come within a hundred yards of this car turn and go the opposite way!!
I have posted my comments on the thread, I have Marshalled hundreds of track days, and that is by far the worse, even most clueless driving I have ever seen.
And shame on Knockhill for letting him stay out there for 12 sessions.
Also the Cones seem like a stupid idea, I know the reason, but they cause way more trouble than they cure
IDIOT!
It's not a trackday. It's a "Hot Hatch" day as they like to call them. and, I've never been anywhere near one, nor do I intend too. These days have been going on for years and are targeted at max power readers, not those you will normally see at trackdays. The cones are a bad attempt at stopping overtaking at the corners.
I have however, done a few other "proper" knockhill trackdays, mainly Dreadnought organised ones, and have had no issues with the driving standards at them (I grew up about 5 miles from the track so have been there once or twice).
Pete
I have however, done a few other "proper" knockhill trackdays, mainly Dreadnought organised ones, and have had no issues with the driving standards at them (I grew up about 5 miles from the track so have been there once or twice).
Pete
pistol pete said:
It's not a trackday. It's a "Hot Hatch" day as they like to call them.
If its not a track day then who governs it, is it a case of the staff at knockhill say what goes, and what is safe?
Isn't there a governing body for the organisers of track days or do they just follow a recomended code of conduct?
I've been following this too; never seen anything like it.
I've been going to the Castle Coombe Action Days (in their various guises) for well over 10 years now and I'm sure Coombe Marshall won't mind my saying that they do have a reputation for incidents - you see them every year. This is something else though!
It would seem that these days have a long standing reputation. They only cost £35 as well - which, what with the organiser's apparent disinclination/inability to deal with this type of driver, can only be a magnet for just that type of driver.
If you read the comments attached to their videos, it becomes all too obvious that they're extremely inexperienced. To me, this point, coupled with the fact that they're constantly referring to 'racing' (they've even got a 'team' name and number plates!), just about sums up what's gone wrong.
Ironically, they've naively exposed not only themselves, but Knockhill.
Be interesting to see what, if anything, the circuit does about it (or indeed, them!).
I've been going to the Castle Coombe Action Days (in their various guises) for well over 10 years now and I'm sure Coombe Marshall won't mind my saying that they do have a reputation for incidents - you see them every year. This is something else though!
It would seem that these days have a long standing reputation. They only cost £35 as well - which, what with the organiser's apparent disinclination/inability to deal with this type of driver, can only be a magnet for just that type of driver.
If you read the comments attached to their videos, it becomes all too obvious that they're extremely inexperienced. To me, this point, coupled with the fact that they're constantly referring to 'racing' (they've even got a 'team' name and number plates!), just about sums up what's gone wrong.
Ironically, they've naively exposed not only themselves, but Knockhill.
Be interesting to see what, if anything, the circuit does about it (or indeed, them!).
Edited by hengti on Monday 25th September 22:06
smckeown bit off topic but just been looking at some of your vids linked to the 106 rallye site,
That's how a track day should be run, still quite close (you do lock up behind a 106!!) but alot safer..
Back to the topic has anyone done any of the Knockhill top marque days? do they differ?
That's how a track day should be run, still quite close (you do lock up behind a 106!!) but alot safer..
Back to the topic has anyone done any of the Knockhill top marque days? do they differ?
Edited by samol on Tuesday 26th September 15:59
This is about normal for a Knockhill "Hot Hatch" day. Going back years you did get a fairly wide range of cars in attendance. Anybody with an expensive car would go out for a few sessions first thing in the morning, before it got busy. Must admit that I've not seen one of these days for about 5 years now, but I don't thing the standard has really got any worse. Most of the cars were cheap track-only cars eg <500 notes, if anything expensive turned up, chances are that it had probably just been stolen for the day.
The car park was usually good with some very nice cars up to watch the lunacy.
They probably should rename them as "Bring any old motor and have an arse around" days. If thats your thing then why not? It is entertaining.
The "Top Marques" evenings required the car to have a value in excess of 10K, and therefore it was normally folks everyday cars, as such people have a bit more to lose so driving standards were much better.
Most of the proper trackdays are much stricter, but not sure if its Knockhill or the actual organiser who enforces the rules. The guys that run the Scobby days get a good rep.
The car park was usually good with some very nice cars up to watch the lunacy.
They probably should rename them as "Bring any old motor and have an arse around" days. If thats your thing then why not? It is entertaining.
The "Top Marques" evenings required the car to have a value in excess of 10K, and therefore it was normally folks everyday cars, as such people have a bit more to lose so driving standards were much better.
Most of the proper trackdays are much stricter, but not sure if its Knockhill or the actual organiser who enforces the rules. The guys that run the Scobby days get a good rep.
samol said:
smckeown bit off topic but just been looking at some of your vids linked to the 106 rallye site,
That's how a track day should be run, still quite close (you do lock up behind a 106!!) but alot safer..
Back to the topic has anyone done any of the Knockhill top marque days? do they differ?
That's how a track day should be run, still quite close (you do lock up behind a 106!!) but alot safer..
Back to the topic has anyone done any of the Knockhill top marque days? do they differ?
Edited by samol on Tuesday 26th September 15:59
Yeah that's only because Pete F was driving and he's not use to my monster 4 pot brakes.
Generally i've never had hassle on track with bookatrack/easytrack/RMA organised events
dfen5 said:
Just read this with utter disbelief. Where do you lot get off trying to ban someone doing something they enjoy. Holier than thou rubbish . Why stick your nose in if it doesn't affect you? If you believe the ban it before they ban us ideology you're so wide of the mark it's untrue.
I haven't mentioned anything about banning!
I just think these days could be a bit better organized and then safer all round..we all enjoy time on the track but if they want to drive like that on a track then I think they are choosing he wrong type of event. Get a race license and try stock hatch.
Edited by samol on Wednesday 27th September 15:54
dfen5 said:
Just read this with utter disbelief. Where do you lot get off trying to ban someone doing something they enjoy. Holier than thou rubbish . Why stick your nose in if it doesn't affect you? If you believe the ban it before they ban us ideology you're so wide of the mark it's untrue.
I think you're missing the point big-style. We're talking about behaving responsibly at track-days, and about responsible marshalling at track-days. Both of those were missing at this event, and the muppets starring in the video were a danger to everyone, and should have been booted off the track...if it had been a reputable track-day they would have been.
It is the government and the hand-wringers who want to bring in blanket bans just because of the actions of a few. We were being specific.
dfen5 said:
Just read this with utter disbelief. Where do you lot get off trying to ban someone doing something they enjoy. Holier than thou rubbish . Why stick your nose in if it doesn't affect you? If you believe the ban it before they ban us ideology you're so wide of the mark it's untrue.
Don't remember anyone asking for track days to be banned. But if I was at *that* one I would most definitely want those reckless idiots thrown out. If you drove like that, I'd want you thrown out too. Pillocks like that put track days at risk for the rest of us.
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