ECB Red v Pagid Blue
Discussion
In view of the Name and Shame Policy I shall limit myself to saying I have never used Pagid, know nothing about them, agree they are expensive and would definitely by them or pads made by the Willy Wonka Pad Making Co-Operative of Inuit Indians who only make pads using whale blubber and finest brazilian cocoa for religious reasons rather than anything by EBC.
Pagid Blues, every time. Expensive and hard on your discs but they certainly slow you down.
A couple of years ago I was given several sets each of EBCs different compounds (Reds, Ceramic Reds, Yellows,....even Greens!) FOC to evaluate and give feedback. I ended up giving away about 8 sets of pads as there was no way I would use them.
A couple of years ago I was given several sets each of EBCs different compounds (Reds, Ceramic Reds, Yellows,....even Greens!) FOC to evaluate and give feedback. I ended up giving away about 8 sets of pads as there was no way I would use them.
Pagid Greys (RS15) have a much higher friction coefficient than the Blues. they are also slightly kinder to discs. Be aware that the they do need some heat in them to work properly, so aren't ideal for a car that is used on the road. A bit more expensive than the blues. Not all compounds are available for all cars/caliper types. Speak to John Freeth at Performance Braking 01600 713117, who actually knows what he's talking about in comparisson to half of the 'motorsport' suppliers, who are simply retailers and have no racing experience. They are just 'bolt-on' merchants (e.g scooby 'bolt-on' boys)
I swear By EBC, I get them half price, being a Marshal, so I thought I'd give them a go, along with there groved/blind drilled disc, and they are awesome.
Don't forget, You are doing track days, not race days, it's not a race!
I guess it depends on the car, If it's big and german you are gonna end up with trouble no matter what you use, you should hear an RS6 in the pits after 2 flying passenger laps, I've never seen anything smoke after so little use!!!
I'm on green stuff, but might go for red next time to see what they are like
Don't forget, You are doing track days, not race days, it's not a race!
I guess it depends on the car, If it's big and german you are gonna end up with trouble no matter what you use, you should hear an RS6 in the pits after 2 flying passenger laps, I've never seen anything smoke after so little use!!!
I'm on green stuff, but might go for red next time to see what they are like
DocJock said:
Odd how experiences vary.
Indeedy, EBC Yellows suposidly a full on endurance race pad lasted me 3 sessions of a track day, spoke to tech desk, v helpfull & new set sent out gratis form a diferent batch, another trackday & exactly the same happened.
Mate used the last set in his car & had exactly the same issues.
& we've both used 3 or so diferent manufacturer types with never an issue.
They were fine on road before tracking tho, then again so are cheapo halfords jobbies.
However 2 other mates- same cars same brake set up, love the yellows & really rate 'em.
Odd indeed.
Never ever heard complaints ref Pagid blue tho (other than price)
iguana said:
DocJock said:
Odd how experiences vary.
Never ever heard complaints ref Pagid blue tho (other than price)
Agreed, Pagid make great pads, although the blues are a bit noisy ime. Best stoppers I have tried, although Hawk carbon metallics always get good recommendations as well.
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