Wheels and spacers.

Wheels and spacers.

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theboyfold

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11,008 posts

232 months

Tuesday 7th March 2006
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What are spacers for wheels and what are the dangers of running a set of wheels on spacers on the track?

The wheels I am looking at have an offset of 29mm so ideally I'd need 10 to 12mm spacers to get the offset down to ~16mm.

I've never dabbled with this before, so if somebody could please enlighten me that's be great!

hbaumhardt

950 posts

285 months

Tuesday 7th March 2006
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An excellent question to which I have also been looking for an authoritative answer. Does fitting spacers make the car or wheels ET/Offset bigger or smaller ? Eg normally car wants ET20 and I can get ET15 or ET25 wheels; which is it with a 5mm spacer ?

combemarshal

2,030 posts

232 months

Tuesday 7th March 2006
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The only reason for spacers if if your fit different wheels and the offset is different, otherwise, if you put in spacers you will create extra strain on the hub ect.

iguana

7,048 posts

266 months

Tuesday 7th March 2006
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'Generally' the wisdom on spacers is that they put more strain on wheel bearings, small 5mm etc spacers will do this less (same as lower ET wheels after all) but for track cars esp- FWD which take one heck of a beating on track anyway its an extra stain, = you need to then get longer wheel bolts- or preferably use studs.

Some cars- 911s for instance have massive wheel bearings & its no issue & big spacers are normal, but most cars have piddly little jobbies where it is.

I do know some folks who track very hard with small spacers in- ok wheel bearings go a bit, but I'd expect a track fwd car on sticky rubber to eat a set a yr anyway, but others take the cars track out by using wider wishbones/rack ends/driveshafts & spacer the hub out from the axle at rear, which is a much better way of doing it, but more expensive & may not be an availale option for many cars.

bimsb6

8,132 posts

227 months

Thursday 9th March 2006
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theboyfold said:
What are spacers for wheels and what are the dangers of running a set of wheels on spacers on the track?

The wheels I am looking at have an offset of 29mm so ideally I'd need 10 to 12mm spacers to get the offset down to ~16mm.

I've never dabbled with this before, so if somebody could please enlighten me that's be great!



you can only increase the offset with spacers not reduce it unless you are replacing existing spacers with thinner ones.

richb

52,613 posts

290 months

Friday 10th March 2006
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bimsb6 said:
theboyfold said:
What are spacers for wheels and what are the dangers of running a set of wheels on spacers on the track?

The wheels I am looking at have an offset of 29mm so ideally I'd need 10 to 12mm spacers to get the offset down to ~16mm.

I've never dabbled with this before, so if somebody could please enlighten me that's be great!
you can only increase the offset with spacers not reduce it unless you are replacing existing spacers with thinner ones.
Must correct you there. A rim with a 40mm offset plus a 5mm spacer is the same as a 35mm offset. Offsets measurements are the amount the centre line of the rim sits "in" towards the wheel arch. So a zero offset means the rim sits equally either side of the hub face, a 40mm offset sits 40mm into the arch hence a 5mm spacer will push it out of the arch i.e. away from the face of the hub and the same as a 35mm offset. Rich...

>> Edited by richb on Friday 10th March 12:45

enginearin

228 posts

258 months

Friday 10th March 2006
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i think he meant to say the you can't reduce the ET of the wheel i.e. an ET25 wheel and 10mm spacer is ET35... you can't get -mm spacers

richb

52,613 posts

290 months

Friday 10th March 2006
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enginearin said:
i think he meant to say the you can't reduce the ET of the wheel i.e. an ET25 wheel and 10mm spacer is ET35... you can't get -mm spacers
But that's my point, an ET25 with a 10mm spacer is the same as a ET15.

theboyfold

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11,008 posts

232 months

Friday 10th March 2006
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I'm all confused now! Although I have learnt one thing, that the best way is to find wheels that match the ones I'll be using for the road.

bimsb6

8,132 posts

227 months

Friday 10th March 2006
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but if you read his original post he is trying to get a negative offset with wheels he is looking at ,not trying to change offset by fitting different wheels ,
i think that makes sense ?

richb

52,613 posts

290 months

Friday 10th March 2006
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Correct, so if he sticks a 12mm spacer on a ET29 rim he will have an off-set of 17mm. 12mm is a big spacer and he will almost certainly need special spacers with a flange to engage with the centre bore of the rim which needs he also needs to get the centre bore diameter correct but that's another story. That's my lot on the subject. Rich...

theboyfold

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11,008 posts

232 months

Friday 10th March 2006
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I'd hoped this was going to be easy! How wrong I was, better keep my eyes peeled on ebay for some cyclones then...