How long do your brake pads last?
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And what pads are you using?
Im currently using using EBC blues on my boxster, which last 2.9 trackdays, which isn't great. Previously ive had PF08 and Pagid RS14, which lasted a lot longer, but cost twice as much, which makes it really difficult to stomach.
I've heard good things about EBC RP1/RPX, so tempted to try them next time.
Whats everyone else running these days? Any strong recommendations?
My car is a 50% road, 50% track car, so I really want to avoid brake squeal.
Im currently using using EBC blues on my boxster, which last 2.9 trackdays, which isn't great. Previously ive had PF08 and Pagid RS14, which lasted a lot longer, but cost twice as much, which makes it really difficult to stomach.
I've heard good things about EBC RP1/RPX, so tempted to try them next time.
Whats everyone else running these days? Any strong recommendations?
My car is a 50% road, 50% track car, so I really want to avoid brake squeal.
When I used to do track days until a couple of years ago I tried many on a variety of cars but always came to the same conclusion.
EBC are crap & would barely last a full day on the front.
RS29 would last a year.
DS1.11 would last a year.
DS UNO would last a year.
All were vastly superiour to EBC and worked even in road use (to & from only) when required.
EBC fronts were around £100
The others always cost around £300 but with no visits under the car to change it was a no-brainer for me.
EBC are crap & would barely last a full day on the front.
RS29 would last a year.
DS1.11 would last a year.
DS UNO would last a year.
All were vastly superiour to EBC and worked even in road use (to & from only) when required.
EBC fronts were around £100
The others always cost around £300 but with no visits under the car to change it was a no-brainer for me.
Dynion Araf Uchaf said:
I run the EPC RBX on my i20n
They are ok and will probably last longer that the blues, but I don t like the pedal feel. ABS kicks in at about 45% brake pressure according to my dash.
Are the pagids 3x the price? If not I d go back to using them
RP-1 are probably more suitable then as they have a lower friction coefficient and better modulation but still happy to operate at high temps with no fade. I use them on my GR86 to good effect. They’re so cheap (sub £100 a set with discount) that they’re a no brainer IMO. They are ok and will probably last longer that the blues, but I don t like the pedal feel. ABS kicks in at about 45% brake pressure according to my dash.
Are the pagids 3x the price? If not I d go back to using them
If your view of EBC is based on pads of old then I’d say give the RP-1/X family a try. Stainless backing plates are a bonus too.
2.9 track days seems very low for pads to last. Maybe you are braking harder than me!
On my GT4 the original Porsche pads lasted about two years, including about 4 or 5 track days from me and a few more from the first owner.
When it came time to replace I went for the Pagid Yellow (RSL29). I replaced the discs with OEM Sebro discs, which came in about half the cost of the Porsche-labeled part, giving more ability to invest in pads, if you like.
Yet to wear them out so I can't give you a durability view. They do squeal a bit on the road though so I think only make sense if your car is mainly a track car.
On my GT4 the original Porsche pads lasted about two years, including about 4 or 5 track days from me and a few more from the first owner.
When it came time to replace I went for the Pagid Yellow (RSL29). I replaced the discs with OEM Sebro discs, which came in about half the cost of the Porsche-labeled part, giving more ability to invest in pads, if you like.
Yet to wear them out so I can't give you a durability view. They do squeal a bit on the road though so I think only make sense if your car is mainly a track car.
I've had a few sets on my clio. Mintex M1144s were fitted when I got the car. They did fade with some abuse, but lasted OK. The M1144s were great on the road. Then moved to PFC097. never faded, lasted for ages (10 days+) but the dust was awful and I ended up having to get the wheels refurbished. Went back to Mintex for M1155s, which lasted ok (5 or 6 days) and stopped ok. Pretty good for the price. Currently got PBS Pro track, which are very similar to the M1155s, just more expensive, and wearing faster.
Mintex have got some new compounds out, which I'll try next.
Mintex have got some new compounds out, which I'll try next.
mej20au said:
When it came time to replace I went for the Pagid Yellow (RSL29). I replaced the discs with OEM Sebro discs, which came in about half the cost of the Porsche-labeled part, giving more ability to invest in pads, if you like.
I did the same on my 997 GT3 and was very happy with the results. The only downside was that the holes in the discs fill up with dust which then affects braking performance, so I began having to clear out all the holes halfway through every track day. Pad squeal was infrequent but sometimes in town. It might depend on bedding in and maybe the leading edge of the pad getting chamfered before fitting.
OP, I'd expect you'd get 10-15 track days out of a set of RSL29s (or whatever today's equivalent is). They're big money but with fantastic performance and far less changing of pads. The cost per track day won't be any more than standard pads or EBCs.
Very car & use dependant, but also brake cooling & circuit dependant & also weather dependant.
I've run through same pad on different cars & one they lasted a couple of years, and the other one 3 trackdays. This was Ds1.11
Also I've run a pad on a car well several types of different pad that many guys on forums & groups get on well with, but I've killed in less than a full day. PBS pro race, 1144s, Yellowstuff, Roddisons own, the car was underbraked tho.
Another point to note is pad thickness, are big differences for different cars. Mk1/2 Mx5s for example on OE or some aftermarket larger kits have very little pad material vs others.
So I'd rave about Ds1.11 on one application, but not that impressed on another. What I did find epic however was ex BTCC Project Mu that were waterjet cut to my size & milled down a tad. Mega pads but something like £800 new! Mine were not new! Lol
I've run through same pad on different cars & one they lasted a couple of years, and the other one 3 trackdays. This was Ds1.11
Also I've run a pad on a car well several types of different pad that many guys on forums & groups get on well with, but I've killed in less than a full day. PBS pro race, 1144s, Yellowstuff, Roddisons own, the car was underbraked tho.
Another point to note is pad thickness, are big differences for different cars. Mk1/2 Mx5s for example on OE or some aftermarket larger kits have very little pad material vs others.
So I'd rave about Ds1.11 on one application, but not that impressed on another. What I did find epic however was ex BTCC Project Mu that were waterjet cut to my size & milled down a tad. Mega pads but something like £800 new! Mine were not new! Lol
Edited by iguana on Sunday 5th July 22:45
I have no idea which Boxster the OP has, but Endless MX72 plus should be a around the £260 mark for fronts for 981/987 iterations They cream everything I have used with the possible exception of CL's but last much longer. I did try RP1's on my old M2C race car on a test day ( against advice ). I binned them after about 10 laps testing. Junk, though unlike yellows or blues the braking material stayed on the backing plates..
I have one experience of Endless pads from some years ago, being the Rent4Ring suzuki swifts at N’ring.
Those guys ran the pads on standard discs and changed discs whenever they changed pads. They were astonishing, in fact a bit too good as there wasnt time to heel and toe and change gear!
Those guys ran the pads on standard discs and changed discs whenever they changed pads. They were astonishing, in fact a bit too good as there wasnt time to heel and toe and change gear!
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